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| Quote ="TheWarringtonWolve69"Because the tories will be out and can no longer ruin the country any longer. I can see street parties galore once the tories are gone. The country will rejoice'"
It's like trying to knock a nail into a knot in a plank of wood talking to you, the Tories with a capital T btw will have at least another 2 or 3 more years in government, so if things don't change it's going to be difficult for the working class so how will people rejoice in that time which was what you implied in the first place.
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| The PM will be gone by next Friday according to a lot of political sources lmao
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| Quote ="silver2"So, where do the Tories go from here? They won't want to do whats right for the country by calling an election - and I assume their own rules won't allow them to replace Truss without another leadership contest. We and they are in deep do-do, with no obvious way out.[/qu
The rumour is that they (the Tories) will select a single candidate to run as next PM, therefore negating the need for their members to vote.
Not very democratic but, we are in fascinating, unprecedented times.
The one thing is, Truss is going, going, going...................
It's strange that, Sunak said that, if she (Truss) went down the route of tax cutting, it would be a total disaster and he was absolutely right.
It seems utterly ridiculous that, we have the Bank of England putting up interest rates to try and cool inflation and The Tories cutting taxes to try and stoke some growth.
Rather strange, to say the least.
You have to feel a little sorry for Kwarteng, sacked for doing what his boss told him to do. Maybe a case for unfair dismissal ?
If the markets continue to fall after the sacking of the Chancellor, surely, she will have to resign ?
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| So Jeremy Hunt fails up again, and is the new chancellor. He promised even bigger tax cuts than Truss, so this may get even worse!
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| Should I change thread title to the new prime minister is Jeremy Hunt ?
Or even Rushi Sunak pulling the strings of the backbenchers ?
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| Quote ="Durham Giant"Should I change thread title to the new prime minister is Jeremy Hunt ?
Or even Rushi Sunak pulling the strings of the backbenchers ?'"
I'm in my fifties and the circus that is going on (and has been since BJ was elected), is, by some distance, the most shambolic governance in my lifetime.
Although I'm happy for the Tories to implode, the damage being done to the UK on the world stage and in terms of finance could cost us for many years to come.
It's an utter disgrace.
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| Quote ="wrencat1873"I'm in my fifties and the circus that is going on (and has been since BJ was elected), is, by some distance, the most shambolic governance in my lifetime.
Although I'm happy for the Tories to implode, the damage being done to the UK on the world stage and in terms of finance could cost us for many years to come.
It's an utter disgrace.'"
I see the French and the other EU countries aren't doing too good either, maybe it's not just the Tories then.
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| Quote ="chissitt"I see the French and the other EU countries aren't doing too good either, maybe it's not just the Tories then.'" Don't ever change Chissy.
If you think anyone in the world is laughing at France or Germany the way people are laughing at the UK right now you are truly, magnificently, deluded.
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| Quote ="The Ghost of '99"Don't ever change Chissy.
If you think anyone in the world is laughing at France or Germany the way people are laughing at the UK right now you are truly, magnificently, deluded.'"
Me deluded ghosty simply stimulating debate that's all, and it's not taken long has it
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| The Tory party is an absolute disarray at the moment. It’s so embarassing it’s laughable. Chief whips storming out of the commons declaring they don’t give a … anymore.
It’s hilarious
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| She as to resign and let Nigel Farage have. Go he is they only one who can get us out of this mess created by the remainiac lefty wokerati now or this country is destroyed
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| Coalition of Chaos.
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| There should be a general election
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| This is enough to see the Tories out of power for a generation.
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| Quote ="Bullseye"This is enough to see the Tories out of power for a generation.'"
Hopefully, that generation will be measured in light years.
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| The new PM is.... Rishi Sunak, who'd have thought......
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| Quote ="wrencat1873"The new PM is.... Rishi Sunak, who'd have thought......'"
He's only got the job by default though.
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| The "default" being that the Incompetent Incumbent had to go. And the predecessor to the Incompetent Incumbent is a crook and liar so untrustworthy that even that bag of snakes of the Parliamentary Tory party couldn't stand the idea of him coming back. And that Sunak was the only one left who didn't seem like a raving lunatic?
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| Quote ="The Ghost of '99"The "default" being that the Incompetent Incumbent had to go. And the predecessor to the Incompetent Incumbent is a crook and liar so untrustworthy that even that bag of snakes of the Parliamentary Tory party couldn't stand the idea of him coming back.[u And that Sunak was the only one left who didn't seem like a raving lunatic?[/u'"
Is there a hint of some grudging admiration in there somewhere
To be fair the incompetent incumbent as you affectionately call her he did beat your hero fair and square in the election to be the Tory leader
With regards to the predecessor of the incompetent incumbent it would seem telling a few porkies came naturally to him, but to actually call him a crook seems a bit excessive unless you have evidence to back up your claim, just an observation but maybe your allowing your obvious bitterness towards the government cloud your judgement somewhat
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| Quote ="chissitt"Is there a hint of some grudging admiration in there somewhere
To be fair the incompetent incumbent as you affectionately call her he did beat your hero fair and square in the election to be the Tory leader
With regards to the predecessor of the incompetent incumbent it would seem telling a few porkies came naturally to him, but to actually call him a crook seems a bit excessive unless you have evidence to back up your claim, just an observation but maybe your allowing your obvious bitterness towards the government cloud your judgement somewhat
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This big question is, whether Sunak will be the Tory leader and PM come the next General Election.
Re-appointing Braverman as Home Secretary seems to be an error of judgement.
A Home Secretary, sending official government stuff on here personal email sems to be a pretty poor error for someone in her position, regardless of whether it was "top secret" or "regular business".
The utter lunacy from the Truss regime beggars belief.
We had the bank of England trying to cool inflation and "crazy Liz" doing the absolute opposite and although Hunt has settled things down a little, what on earth was she doing ?
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| Quote ="chissitt"Is there a hint of some grudging admiration in there somewhere
To be fair the incompetent incumbent as you affectionately call her he did beat your hero fair and square in the election to be the Tory leader
With regards to the predecessor of the incompetent incumbent it would seem telling a few porkies came naturally to him, but to actually call him a crook seems a bit excessive unless you have evidence to back up your claim, just an observation but maybe your allowing your obvious bitterness towards the government cloud your judgement somewhat
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Crook, noun, a person who is dishonest or a criminal.
Dishonest, I think we can take as a given. Criminal - his role in the plot to assault Stuart Collier or in criminal damage as a member of the Bullingdon Club… do I need a question mark for that?
I’d take Truss back a thousand times before him. She was just daft; harmfully so, admittedly. What he did to the national psyche, with the support of millions of culpable wallies, was an atrocity against decency.
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| Quote ="Mild Rover"Crook, noun, a person who is dishonest or a criminal.
Dishonest, I think we can take as a given. Criminal - his role in the plot to assault Stuart Collier or in criminal damage as a member of the Bullingdon Club… do I need a question mark for that?
I’d take Truss back a thousand times before him. She was just daft; harmfully so, admittedly. What he did to the national psyche, with the support of millions of culpable wallies, was an atrocity against decency.'"
Fully agree with this.
Truss was just laughably incompetent.
Johnson though was - and remains - downright dangerous. With what he's done to this country and with the cult of personality that he fostered he will go down as perhaps the worst and most destructive Prime Minister in history. And I include Neville Chamberlain in that. At least he was doing his best in what he thought was the country's interests.
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| Quote ="The Ghost of '99"Fully agree with this.
Truss was just laughably incompetent.
Johnson though was - and remains - downright dangerous. With what he's done to this country and with the cult of personality that he fostered he will go down as perhaps the worst and most destructive Prime Minister in history. And I include Neville Chamberlain in that. At least he was doing his best in what he thought was the country's interests.'"
I read an article today where Johnson was described as "having a unique relationship with the truth". Rather more polite than the way that most people would describe him but, nonetheless, it's true.
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