Quote The Video Ref="The Video Ref"It was some time ago. The best I can find it a link to the Wail in 2006, which carries a similar story and may or may not be the one I read originally. I seem to recall this story repeating around 2009/10. www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... icies.html'" Interesting, but also interesting to note that: [i"Large majorities dismissed two of the BNP's most hardline ideas. Some 68 per cent refused to support the stance that non-white British citizens are inherently less British than white people. And 52 per cent were opposed to encouraging immigrants and their families to leave Britain."[/i And also that: [i"The poll was carried out for Sky News..."[/i And that it wasn't the same people asked in each case, rather: [i"Around 900 people were asked if they supported policies without any mention of the BNP, while 941 were told that they were BNP commitments."[/i

Quote The Video Ref="The Video Ref"It was some time ago. The best I can find it a link to the Wail in 2006, which carries a similar story and may or may not be the one I read originally. I seem to recall this story repeating around 2009/10. www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... icies.html'" Interesting, but also interesting to note that: [i"Large majorities dismissed two of the BNP's most hardline ideas. Some 68 per cent refused to support the stance that non-white British citizens are inherently less British than white people. And 52 per cent were opposed to encouraging immigrants and their families to leave Britain."[/i And also that: [i"The poll was carried out for Sky News..."[/i And that it wasn't the same people asked in each case, rather: [i"Around 900 people were asked if they supported policies without any mention of the BNP, while 941 were told that they were BNP commitments."[/i

They're not doing anything, other than turning up. Going to the gym is very different from training or exercising in a gym.


Exercise doesn't make you smell. Sweat doesn't smell unless it's exposed to bacteria for a period of time.

[url=http://cdn.yougov.com/today_uk_import/YG-Archives-pol-skynews-BNP-060425.pdfLink to the survey (pdf).[/url

The thing with just asking someone a question

Do you agree with x policy is flawed though without knowing which party is behind it, it goes to the intent of the policy.

If both Labour and the BNP ask that question, the outcome is the same granted but the motive behind the BNP would be racially motivated whereas the Labour one could be coming from the angle of overstretched services or employment. The motive is everything, i'd back the policy if it was for the right reason but not if it was for the wrong one.
People who vote against good ideas purely because they are not the party they always vote for are also prevalent, never understood that thinking.

Ah ... well ... you see, it's only a "nanny state" initiative when it threatens profits or makes "me" do or stop doing something.
When it's someone else, it's fine.

HI mate, still cant do long walks, 4.5/5 miles is my limit now however i can cycle 12 miles ,strange but true, so she jogs the 12 miles with us when we get the bikes out(not that often lately though TBH)the staff at the gym are great and dont let me do too much too soon.
hope you doing better and you and yours and the dogs are well.

On the general subject – [url=http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-20914685some breakfast cereals, specifically marketed at children, have MORE than 30% sugar?[/url

WTF?

Cereals are shîte anyway, but they are, generally speaking, marketed as and considered to be a healthy breakfast. I knew it was difficult to find a cereal without added sugar and salt – there are very rare exceptions – but such figures are absolutely crazy.

I also know – because I bother to examine ingredients when buying anything that has them – that ingredients are listed in order of amount in the finished item. But more than 30% of a product – and one that's aimed at children?

That's a f**king joke. Even I wouldn't have guessed there was such vast amounts in any cereal.

Lets name a specific brand - Frosties.

Try eating a supermarkets own brand of cornflakes and because they are cut right down to a specific price band you'll find a fairly bland product that goes soggy quickly in milk and has all the consistency of eating thin cardboard.

Now pour yourself a bowl of Frosties, I can barely bring myself to eat them on the rare occasions that I do, they taste so badly of saccharin that that is all you taste, they may not go soggy so quickly but thats because they have an emulsion of an artificial sweetener on them which leaves an aftertaste that lasts for hours.

I was speaking to a client of mine at work just yesterday and afterwards wondered what it was they did for a living, they manufacture wheat biscuits, granola and muesli which is sold through various supermarket own brands, seems to be quite a
"whole" product so I may have to give them a try.

My mother used to give us Cornflakes or Rice Crispies for breakfast. That, a piece of toast and a glass of milk. So what would be considered a 'sensible' breakfast, certainly back in the '60s and '70s. But she'd never have Frosties or the Crispies with added sugar – precisely because of the sugar. But I doubt she really considered the sugar that was in the ordinary version anyway.

I think cereals are dire. These days, I have a couple of soft-boiled eggs or an omelette; sometimes a kipper. Far better – tastewise too.

But I do buy cereals for tb – and it's a mare trying to find ones that do not have sugar (and salt) in them. Even many of the muselis and similar cereals, which really are marketed as healthy, have loads of sugar.

The marketing is extraordinary: look at yogurts that are marketed as 'low fat' – in other words, 'look, this is healthy', yet there'll be sugar in that too. And high fructose corn syrup is in so much, in items that people are not likely to expect – as the glaze on a pizza base, for instance. Well who looks at a pizza and expects masses of sugar in it? So you've got this vast amount of sugar that nobody expects, even when they're making an effort to eat reasonably healthily.

I'd avoid most 'granola' products if I were you, being a North American thing it tends to be absolutely full of sugar. Awful stuff. Eating in the USA is a fricking nightmare if you want to avoid sugar, and that is continuing to spread over here.

In the days when I worked 9-5 I always had a bowl of muesli to start the day - oats, nuts, seeds, big juicy chunks of dried fruit, and I'd normally mix some of the wife's bran flakes in there and perhaps some other fruit on top - a banana, apple, strawberries, blueberries, maybe even a dose of Greek yoghurt. Whatever. Lovely.

But the problem was in amongst the couple of dozen 'healthy' muesli products, only one or two had zero sugar - almost every one had had sugar chucked in, often the second or third highest content ingredient. I think Jordan's Natural Muesli was my preferred option.

Why parents think starting your kids off on a massive sugar rush (and subsequent comedown) is a good idea, I'll never know.

Same as Mintball, I tend to go for eggs these days - poached is my preference.

I have cornflakes. Failing that, Weetabix/fruit crunch/ crunchy nut cornflakes / shredded wheat/ Cheerios / Dorset cereal. Sometimes, at weekends, I have a cooked breakfast too.

Oh yes, Crunchy Nut Cornflakes - definitely a guilty pleasure, but not something anyone should eat every day. We only ever had it at Xmas as kids. Otherwise it was Shredded Wheat, Weetabix or Corn Flakes. Or toast.