There is rough and tumble and then there is this kind of stuff - simply disgraceful from Johnson. He taints everything he gets near to - odious individual, the sooner he is gone the better. Sadly there isn't sufficient nuts in the Tories to sort him out.

If he is the leader going into the next election we will see the biggest swing in seats since the 2nd WW. The Tories don't need to lose many of these northern seats to see their majority disappear.

All very interesting guys and I actually agree with a lot of it.
However it's got nothing to do with the fact that it was a hard LEFT group of thugs that attacked Starmer.
Not as superglue and his gang suggested those of the knuckle dragging right.

My mother always said that "the further to the left that you go, the more right wing you become".

Ahhh! I see. So we can now blame all thuggery on the right. Clever.

How Ridiculous



Everybody knows it was Far Right Lyin Boris who attacked Starmer

and his boot boys joined in.

Far more death and destruction caused by the hard left than ever caused by the hard right. Mao killed more of his people than were killed in WW1 & WW2 combined. Add to that Stalin/Lenin and the despot leaders in the old Soviet block the list is a long one.

Cummins has his number



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Far too clever for Boris

Cummings may well be telling the truth. However it's hilarious that you NOW treat his word as gospel. I wonder why?

Ask Sue Gray and the Met Police

And he’s not even that clever!

Yet, here we are and Boris Johnson is still Prime Minister. Stupidity, selfishness and dishonesty are not always major barriers to political success. Trump and Johnson have made them assets though, finding a following among a surprisingly large demographic who admire and revel in their vices, and call it patriotism. If pride and hope for shared prosperity and wellbeing are dead, at least we can have some trolling lulz. Here’s to the end of our nation state and the rise of Rees-Moggian sovereign citizens… it is a very weird breed of English Nationalism.

Not in this case but, the far right are guilty of plenty, as I'm sure you know. The BNP and National Front etc.
The attempt at humour clearly passed you by.

Both Johnson and Trump arrived in power because the opposition on both sides of the Atlantic were absolutely woeful.

But I'm asking you. It's not that difficult a question, even for yourself.

Oh Dear


Well if you insist

I happen to agree with Sue Gray and the Met Police, who do you agree with

So how come Trump departed power so soon , despite a very weak opposition party?

You may care to read my posting again, I mentioned the fact of both trump and Johnson gaining power.
I never commented on remaining in power, however since you mentioned it, probably the main reason trump failed was he was unable to fulfill a fair proportion of his election promises. Johnson is fast approaching the same scenario with his so called red wall MPs. Labour looks like winning the next election, purely on the basis of Tory incompetence. However some time in the next few months they will have to come up with some kind of policy’s to attract the voting public. At the moment they are on a crest of a wave highlighting the stupidity of the tories. Be interesting to see how labour perform when the full spotlight of the media focuses on them.

Sue Gray. Can't agree with the Met, AFAIK they haven't arrested or fined anyone yet

Well that’s because the Met are at the investigation stage,

you don’t agree the Met should be investigating Boris’s tories 12 lockdown party breaches?

Yes they should investigate

Some people voted for them with enthusiasm, not even despite but because of what they are. People are disillusioned and bitter, and somebody tearing up conventions is cathartic for them even if it is destructive. Low self worth on a national scale.

The former Conservative councillor involved in yesterday’s mob. Wait a minute all anti vaxxers are lefties so how can this be.

Gosh surely it wasn't a false narrative put out by the Tory deflection and distraction machine?!
Shocking.

The National Socialist German Workers Party are a facist party I I trust you now feel embarrassed which you should. I would also remind you of the atrocities what you believe to be a left wing party administered to the communists, perhaps they were just considered not left wing enough. I hope this will teach Turfedout not to jump to defend your posts in the future.
I have also pointed out that the anti vaxxer movement is not a left wing plot it covers all sides of the political divide hence the fact that the Conservative councillor was also in attendance arguing with the Police.
What I find amazing is that all those who come on here to defend the de Pfeffel stance have never supported him, hindsight is a wonderful thing.