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| Quote ="Chris28"Or she doesn't actually understand the charges'"
No I think she understands all too well.
I think there is a possibility that she is hoping to Blag her way out of it.
Surely her lawyers and the Q.C must know that the CPS wouldn't push the button on this no matter who the lead was if there wasn't the facts to back it up I mean how stupid would they look if it comes to light that it is baseless.
If she/they think Levitt would push for a charge when there was no evidence to support it just to get one over her then I suggest that IMHO she/they are delusional.
Don't get me wrong like any case no one can be certain of conviction and she may be found to be innocent but to suggest that Levitt has done this purely out of spite is beyond silly.
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| Quote ="Anakin Skywalker"No I think she understands all too well.
I think there is a possibility that she is hoping to Blag her way out of it.
Surely her lawyers and the Q.C must know that the CPS wouldn't push the button on this no matter who the lead was if there wasn't the facts to back it up I mean how stupid would they look if it comes to light that it is baseless.
If she/they think Levitt would push for a charge when there was no evidence to support it just to get one over her then I suggest that IMHO she/they are delusional.
Don't get me wrong like any case no one can be certain of conviction and she may be found to be innocent but [uto suggest that Levitt has done this purely out of spite is beyond silly[/u.'"
Quite, and the threat of JR is nothing more than an attempt to deflect attention from herself. Any judge with half a brain will throw that out before it gets anywhere.
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| [url=http://hackinginquiry.org/comment/rebekah-brooks-and-the-course-of-justice/An excellent article by Brian Cathcart for HackedOff[/url
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| Quote ="cod'ead"[url=http://hackinginquiry.org/comment/rebekah-brooks-and-the-course-of-justice/An excellent article by Brian Cathcart for HackedOff[/url'"
Exactly. What I thought expressed in a much better way
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| Quote ="Chris28"Exactly. What I thought expressed in a much better way'"
Agreed. If she hasn't done anything wrong, she should expect (especially with the lawyers she can afford) to be fully vindicated.
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| Quote ="Wanderer"Agreed. If she hasn't done anything wrong, she should expect (especially with the lawyers she can afford) to be fully vindicated.'"
Which is why the fact that she hasn't got a "bring it on" attitude surprises me
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| Quote ="Chris28"Which is why the fact that she hasn't got a "bring it on" attitude surprises me'" Unless she has a decent clue what the outcome is likely to be and is trying to cover other bases incase she happens to be found guilty.
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| Quote ="Anakin Skywalker"Unless she has a decent clue what the outcome is likely to be and is trying to cover other bases incase she happens to be found guilty.'"
I reckon she'll take many politicians and coppers with her, she's odious but she's not alone, most of this happened under a Labout government remember, messrs Blair and Brown may not sleep well for many months (likewise Cameron, Clegg, Cable etc etc)
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| Quote ="Standee"I reckon she'll take many politicians and coppers with her, she's odious but she's not alone, most of this happened under a Labout government remember, messrs Blair and Brown may not sleep well for many months (likewise Cameron, Clegg, Cable etc etc)'"
And it started back in the 1980s, as plenty of the evidence has shown.
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| Quote ="Mintball"And it started back in the 1980s, as plenty of the evidence has shown.'"
no doubt about it, probably pre Thatcheri'd imagine.
absolute power and all that
it goes to show that not once since the second world war (if not before) has a single politician or newspaper editor put the truth before personal gain.
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| nonononono, it's all he fault of 'Noo Labuh'.
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Well it would seem that Jeremy Paxman is no longer on Piers Morgan's christmas card list after he stated that Morgan knew 'this went on' with regard to knowing about factory settings of mobile voicemail activation codes.
He also stated that Morgan teased Ulrika Johnson about how he knew what had happened in conversation between her and Sven-Göran Eriksson.
He stated that he didn't know if Morgan knew about it or if he made it up in his mind but he confirmed that is what happened.
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He also stated that Morgan teased Ulrika Johnson about how he knew what had happened in conversation between her and Sven-Göran Eriksson.
He stated that he didn't know if Morgan knew about it or if he made it up in his mind but he confirmed that is what happened.
www.guardian.co.uk/media/2012/ma ... gan-paxman
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| [url=http://local.stv.tv/glasgow/103888-former-news-of-the-world-editor-andy-coulson-arrested-on-perjury-charges/Coulson has his collar felt by the jock rozzers[/url
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And Cameron can't even distance himself after his 'No regrets' comment.
I'm beginning to think that those odds at Cameron being PM are christmas are about right.
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[url=http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-glasgow-west-18262740Even better than that[/url
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| Next up [url=http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-18273297Jeremy Hunt[/url who has now entered the official Cockerney Rhyming Slang Dictionary as a euphemism for Jammy *unt.
I wonder how he'll approach this one, taking the "I'm considerably cleverer than you" (Gove) line or the Blair et al method of selective amnesia? One thing's for certain Adam Smith will be subjected to even more blame.
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| @LouiseMensch "very confident today on #Hunt at Leveson. Clearly he didn't authorise Adam Smith and did have a proper quasi-judicial process. cf Perm Sec."
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| Quote ="Mintball"@LouiseMensch "very confident today on #Hunt at Leveson. Clearly he didn't authorise Adam Smith and did have a proper quasi-judicial process. cf Perm Sec."
Bless.'"
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| So Jeremy Hunt says that having a meeting with Murdoch wasn't right but having the same conversation over the phone was fine.
I have heard some double talk but that tops the lot.
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| Browsing through Peter Oborne's outstanding "Rise of the Political Class" I came across an interesting and relevant snippet:
Quote "[NewspaperProprietors were treated with the same care and attention that was extended to trade union barons in the 1970s. They were given special favours, handed unique priveledges, handled with near total deference by the [Blair administration. Editors were cultivated on a scale never before approached by any serving Prime Minister. Piers Morgan, editor of the [iDaily Mirror[/i, boasted in his dairies that he had enjoyed [i'twenty-two lunches, six dinners, six interviews, twenty-four further one-to-one chats over tea and biscuits plus numerous phone calls' with the Prime Minister in under ten years'.[/i It should be borne in mind that Morgan's top-level access, though extraordinary, was derisory compared to red-top competitor Rebekah Wade, editor of the [iNews of the World[/i and the [iSun[/i. This intensive face-to-face cultivation of tabloid editors was something completely new in British public life, and had not occurred before during either Labour or Conservative governments. Again and again civil servants, military leaders and others who glimpsed Tony Blair's government from the inside expressed amazement at the extent that decision-making was dominated by the press.
While it was the case that Margaret Thatcher's Conservative Party devoted great care in cultivating the [iSun[/i from the 1970s onwards, Thatcher herself met the paper's editors Larry Lamb and Kelvin McKenzie relatively rarely.'"
But more important I think is the following quote:
Quote "In a parallel but closely connected development, the post of chief whip was downgraded. The chief whip had been one of the notable and powerful figures in both Labour and Conservative governments: keeper of secrets, enforcer of rules, the crucial link between Downing Street and the parliamentary party, sometimes the PM's closest confidant.
... after 1997 the power and status of the chief whip sank sharply, and the role was converted into little more than harmless drudge. The position of enforcer which previously belonged to the chief whip was grabbed by the Prime Minister's press adviser (Alastair Campbell)."'"
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| What has become clearer than when Oborne write this, however, is that Thatcher met and maintained a good relationship with Murdoch – to the point of handwritten notes from at least one to the other.
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