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| Quote ="Ajw71"news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/8649012.stm
Oh, no the mask slipped with this one.'"
Bless, is that the best you can do?
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And her "offence" is what exactly?
Your last three posts have really been barrel-scraping of the highest order
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And her "offence" is what exactly?
Your last three posts have really been barrel-scraping of the highest order
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| Quote ="cod'ead"And her "offence" is what exactly?
Your last three posts have really been barrel-scraping of the highest order'"
Your whole existence on this forum is barrel-scraping of the highest order. You sit on your computer all day every day waiting for a 'story' to break where a Tory politician may have done something remotely wrong, then you milk it to death on an irrelevant rugby league messageboard, constantly bombarding us with links to articles in the desperate hope that someone might agree with you or you might influence someone's political opinion. Aren't you retired? Surely you can find something better to do with your time. Golf perhaps?
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| Quote ="Ajw71"Your whole existence on this forum is barrel-scraping of the highest order. You sit on your computer all day every day waiting for a 'story' to break where a Tory politician may have done something remotely wrong, then you milk it to death on an irrelevant rugby league messageboard, constantly bombarding us with links to articles in the desperate hope that someone might agree with you or you might influence someone's political opinion. Aren't you retired? Surely you can find something better to do with your time. Golf perhaps?'"
Your beloved tories and their frinds in the finance industry made sure that I and many like me, who have paid £thousands into pension schemes will never be able to retire in any level of security.
And in the famous words of Aneurin Bevan:
[size=200 No amount of cajolery, and no attempts at ethical or social seduction, can eradicate from my heart a deep burning hatred for the Tory Party. So far as I am concerned they are lower than vermin.[/size
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| Has anyone got a mop and bucket, that Ajw has left a right mess on the floor...
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| In fairness to him most coppers are plebs. I can't find the link but there was an article a while back on the BBC website about research showing average levels of intelligence in the Police force are dropping.
Anyway - hate to say I told you so but these upper class over privileged bell ends get to where they are because their families have money and they therefore believe they have "the right to rule" as someone put it. Put an end to inherence and you'd get less people like George and Dave running the country.
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| So the Police Federation chief is calling Mitchell a liar [url=http://liberalconspiracy.org/2012/09/21/andrew-mitchell-a-liar-and-must-quit-says-police-chief/?fb_action_ids=359593600789112%2C359590740789398&fb_action_types=og.likes&fb_source=other_multiline&action_object_map=%7B%22359593600789112%22%3A157934774338688%2C%22359590740789398%22%3A340581402703194%7D&action_type_map=%7B%22359593600789112%22%3A%22og.likes%22%2C%22359590740789398%22%3A%22og.likes%22%7D&action_ref_map=%5B%5DLinky thing here[/url and Mitchell is effectively calling the police officer a liar by stating that he did not use those terms.
Cameron is sitting on his hands at the moment because he can't be seen to have picked such a liability to be his chief whip, not after being so embarrassed by Andy Coulson, but if he doesn't play it right then this could be Camerons Watergate - literally.
There is one thing that will reveal who said what and how Mitchell behaved, whether or not he was just a bit stroppy or whether he actually said what the police are quoting him as saying - and lets not forget these are not ordinary police officers here, they are the elite and probably from the diplomatic protection corps, they have everything to lose by inventing this stuff.
The gates into Downing Street are heavily fortified, they are defended by armed police, I don't believe for one minute that they are not also covered by high quality cctv and audio recording, every square inch.
So where are the tapes David ?
Lets see the tapes replayed and lets all see the truth of what happened.
Just be very careful to make all of the footage public - remember what happened to Nixon ?
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| at Ajw making a complete t|t of himself once again. If only he could find an irrelevant poll to back up his ridiculous argument.
Spot on McLaren, you would have thought there would be CCTV.
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| Quote ="100% Wire"What a horrible, horiible, disgusting regime we're living under. This man is a prat, his colleagues are prats, the coalition is full of PRATS!'"
And the likes of Ed Balls and Ms Cooper are a whole lot better? Back to topic he should do the honourable thing and resign - but he has got the nuts to do it.
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| Quote ="Him"icon_lol.gif at Ajw making a complete t|t of himself once again. If only he could find an irrelevant poll to back up his ridiculous argument.
Spot on McLaren, you would have thought there would be CCTV.'"
Resorting to personal abuse once again I see, and to think you try and mock others education.
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| Quote ="Sal Paradise"And the likes of Ed Balls and Ms Cooper are a whole lot better? Back to topic he should do the honourable thing and resign - but he has got the nuts to do it.'"
What the Oxbridge educated PPE toffs.....?
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| Quote ="Ajw71"What the Oxbridge educated PPE toffs.....?
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As opposed to handing the economy to someone who only managed a 2.1 in Modern History and whose sum of economic achievement is a 'D' in GCSE maths?
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| Quote ="cod'ead"As opposed to handing the economy to someone who only managed a 2.1 in Modern History and whose sum of economic achievement is a 'D' in GCSE maths?'"
I thought Cameron got a 1st?
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| Quote ="Sal Paradise"I thought Cameron got a 1st?'"
Cameron got a 1st in PPE, still lagged behind Ed Balls though.
Last time I looked, Osborne was charged with running (or ruining) the economy.
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| Quote ="cod'ead"Cameron got a 1st in PPE, still lagged behind Ed Balls though.
Last time I looked, Osborne was charged with running (or ruining) the economy.'"
And Balls made such a good job of his last government post!! Perhaps his qualifications weren't of much use?
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| Quote ="Sal Paradise"And Balls made such a good job of his last government post!! Perhaps his qualifications weren't of much use?'"
Let us reiterate.
When this government took office, employment had stabilised and there was economic growth.
Those are facts. Whether some people like them or not. Whether some people like Ed Balls or not. They remain facts.
Equally, you will not eradicate the deficit (a problem caused by the banks' behaviour) via austerity (for some) and without growth.
This is not rocket science.
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| The Labour Party ought to be thanking Ajw71 for his highlighting of the way that Labour has dealt with those miscreants and alleged miscreants.
Would that Cameron would follow that example.
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Quote ="Mintball"Let us reiterate.
When this government took office, employment had stabilised and there was economic growth.
Those are facts. Whether some people like them or not. Whether some people like Ed Balls or not.
Equally, you will not eradicate the deficit (a problem caused by the banks' behaviour) via austerity (for some) measures and without growth.
This is not rocket science.'"
New Statesman recently ran an article about the 20 economists who wrote a letter to The Sunday Times backing Osborne's austerity plan.
They asked them, two and a half years after that letter, whether they still backed his view.
Whilst only a slight majority replied to The Staggers, it does seem that even the tide of tory-slanted economists' opinion has either turned or is turning.
www.newstatesman.com/blogs/polit ... s-turn-him
Osborne is becoming more and more isolated as more and more people wake up to the realisation that this vindictive and snotty little emperor has no clothes.
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Quote ="Mintball"Let us reiterate.
When this government took office, employment had stabilised and there was economic growth.
Those are facts. Whether some people like them or not. Whether some people like Ed Balls or not.
Equally, you will not eradicate the deficit (a problem caused by the banks' behaviour) via austerity (for some) measures and without growth.
This is not rocket science.'"
New Statesman recently ran an article about the 20 economists who wrote a letter to The Sunday Times backing Osborne's austerity plan.
They asked them, two and a half years after that letter, whether they still backed his view.
Whilst only a slight majority replied to The Staggers, it does seem that even the tide of tory-slanted economists' opinion has either turned or is turning.
www.newstatesman.com/blogs/polit ... s-turn-him
Osborne is becoming more and more isolated as more and more people wake up to the realisation that this vindictive and snotty little emperor has no clothes.
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| That's an interesting read.
Vince Cable's announcement of a bank for small business the other week was effectively an admission that QE has been a waste of time, simply giving the banks more money, but with them failing to actually do with it what was intended – ie lend it to small businesses.
In other words, you can't do stimulus via the banks.
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| Quote ="Mintball"That's an interesting read.
Vince Cable's announcement of a bank for small business the other week was effectively an admission that QE has been a waste of time, simply giving the banks more money, but with them failing to actually do with it what was intended – ie lend it to small businesses.
In other words, you can't do stimulus via the banks.'"
As I said at the time: if they'd shared all the QE money around equally among the general population, that would have caused a far greater stimulus than anything the BofE managed.
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| Quote ="Mintball"Let us reiterate.
When this government took office, employment had stabilised and there was economic growth.
Those are facts. Whether some people like them or not. Whether some people like Ed Balls or not. They remain facts.
Equally, you will not eradicate the deficit (a problem caused by the banks' behaviour) via austerity (for some) and without growth.
This is not rocket science.'"
Growth has to come from the private sector you will not eradicate a deficit by increasing public spending. Pumping money into the public sector - Balls' preferred method - is not going to stimulate growth. Even Balls admitted Labour would need to reduce the level of borrowing if they retained power. Balls never offered a solution to driving growth.
Growth was less than 1% in 2010 so to say we had growth is stretching a definition and 2009 the last full year under Labour saw a significant downturn in the economy, unemployment has been growing since 2008 - to say Labour had it under control is a not supported by the figures!!
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