Well, that's the thing about opinions ....



What concerns me is the way so-called "conspiracy theorists" are routinely targeted for holding beliefs on issues which - at the very least - deserve further investigation, are not without recorded precedent and may even be true. It's an inversion of rationality.

The very label I consider deliberately weaponised language. After all, there must be hundreds of thousands of people in this country (probably more) who at some point or another suspect big business, finance, government etc. is fleecing them. But you don't hear people jumping into conversations and accusing them of being "crazy conspiracy theorists". Why not?

Because that behaviour is both normal and rational, up to a point.
We are aware of the some of the shenanigans that go on and are prepared to believe a lot more.
But when we see a plane hit a tower and not unreasonably it brings it down as a consequence, further make believe gets short shrift!
Although we can debate who brought it about.

It's the excessive and continual desire to see subterfuge in almost everything calamitous and political (although the latter is almost a given) that produces scorn.

Because understanding that not all is as it seems, and believing that everything is the result of the orchestrated actions of a cabal of governments, intelligence agencies and the media, are two very different worldviews. Derision is even more likely when the theorist in question believes every and all conspiracy theories - as I described in my previous post, there is evidence to suggest that some people are so entrenched in that mode of thought that they'll believe conspiracy theories that contradict each other, before they'll believe the official explanation.

In short - some crazy conspiracy theorists give all conspiracy theorists a bad name.

A conspiracy is simply what happens when people conspire against other people.

When the tabacco industry covered up the fact smoking causes cancer. That was a conspiracy.

When the Tories plotted to oust thatcher, that was a conspiracy

Volkswagon's using technology to fiddle emititions, that was a conspiracy.

Everytime a muslim plans an arranged marriage that his daughter doesn't really want. It's a conspiracy.

When your colleges gossip behind your back it's a conspiracy

Julius caesars murder was a conspiracy too....

Conspiracies happen all the time, there are thousands of people in prison in the UK for conspiracy to do something or the other illegal. Most conspiracies are quite mundane but obviously when Governments, MSM and large companies are involved the effects on other people are amplified. The idea that there are no conspiracies and Governments and the MSM tell the truth all the time is quite absurd, more absurd than even the most outlandish conspiracy theory.

You're moving from the incredibly vague to the specific. Even so - I don't see them as mutually exclusive.

If I said nation states were run by secret cabals at any point in recorded history stretching back from a hundred years previous I doubt anyone would raise so much as an eyebrow. Ancient Greek history as laid out by Herodotus and Thucydides is packed full of them. Roman leaders were always conspiring against one another. The Vatican has a positively serpentine history. As for the English, French & Spanish monarchies - I think it's safe to say they enjoyed more than the odd conspiracy (Simon Schama has made a bloody good living out of them!)

Are we supposed to believe everyone just gave up conspiring against one another from the outbreak of World War I?



How is it possible to know whether two theories contradict each other if you are completely ignorant of the matter and its complexities? Just because two arguments appear to contradict each other - it doesn't necessarily follow that it's a genuine contradiction.

And I have a much higher regard for so-called "crazy conspiracy theorists" than people who can't be bothered to study the matter in question at even the most superficial level. Even when they arrive at erroneous conclusions - at least they've actually [iattempted[/i to engage the old grey matter. The best the opposite side can muster is a ridiculous appeal to "incompetence theory", "somnambulist theory", "coincidence theory", "spontaneity theory" etc. etc. which neatly relieves them of any obligation to think.

Except that I don't think anyone engaged here is saying anything to the contrary.
I don't think there are many people, although it's not my first question at a social gathering, who believe that there are no conspiracies in this world.
We are talking about extreme views and I don' t think there are many at that end.

Care to elucidate on that point?

It seems clear to me, although I'm pretty sure both parties have to agree to marry under Islamic law.

I just gave you an example - that Princess Diana both faked her own death, and was murdered.

It's interesting that you are prepared to rubbish psychologists who have clearly applied their knowledge, carried out research and actually thought about their theories of why some people are more likely to see a conspiracy in everything; but you place very high value on people who've applied some knowledge, carried out research and actually thought about their theory that an event is the result of a conspiracy. I conclude that you value that level of diligence, but only when it applies to things you are predisposed to believe - it's that pesky monological thing again.

Hmm, with such a simple question you appear to have rendered the lunatic lost for words. Well done you

Probably still thinking about an answer to the 'what did conspiracy theorists do before the internet?' question which still remains unanswered by our resident search, copy and paste expert.

They bored their mates down the pub and probably still do.
I say mates ... I bet many a pint has been supped up swiftly as they entered the door.

Has peace and harmony descended upon this thread.
Or is there a conspiracy convention somewhere that has diverted our chief protagonists?

The above comment is obviously wrong. I've not posted recently and the conversation has took one hell of a nosedive. So fill your boots sheeple you're welcome to spew your hypnotised drivel.



Until the next false flag event, which i'm in no doubt won't be long. Adios

Good riddance you lunatic

Wasn't that yesterday, with the false Russian flag NASA spoof of "Major" Tim Peake, laughably purporting to blast into Space and board the mythical "Space Station"? I mean, Baikonur, right? It was so obvious that was just an old Thunderbirds set, wasn't it? I can't work out though why the real Russians haven't spilled the beans.

There's a certain amount of irony here in that you are also a member of the sheeple following the hypnotised drivel of folk with dubious credibility on those nut job conspiracy news sites you frequently copy and paste from.

i've no idea what you've posted but i'd give a very good guess it'll be something like some Freemason with a name similar to TWIN PEAKES faking a launch in a pretty big firework which curved into[url=https://youtu.be/3U9Z_uH1iCo?t=11A HORIZONTAL POSITION WITHIN 40 SECONDS[/url ha ha i found it most amusing all the sheeple we're all cheering and clapping a Hollywood film. I wonder why it only shown 2 minutes of footage with supposedly with tens of thousands of satellites roaming the earth. It could of filmed the full flight, It's a wonder itself that it managed to swerve all satellite obstructions up there too. I also found it hilarious how the fake module travelling at 17.000mph at 5mps without crashing ha ha manages to [url=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Si8nSU-gd-ADOCK[/urlwithout a single hitch whilst sub-mergerd within the pure vacuum of space whilst at the same time the control room guys were all munching on their sandwiches ha ha i found it hilarious. The film was [url=https://youtu.be/_lRApcwdpWM?t=144FULL OF AGAIN CGI[/url The only proof in that film that they entered orbit was the pesky pendulum started bouncing ha ha [url=https://youtu.be/_lRApcwdpWM?t=432I find it so hilarious how the sheeple are easily fooled. Ha ha[/url

Your avatar is very appropriate .. you don't know what he wrote, but you'd guess blah di blah ... bingo!
Give over ...

Without a single hitch? You're having a laugh!
The automatic docking system went awry and they had to dock manually ... you know like they had been trained to.
Besides you watched a bit, why did you bother when you think it's all a fake?
Having doubts are we?
Starting to reason are we?

You're an hypnotist's dream.

Hypnotist dream Ha ha i don't watch Mainstream hypnosis channels you do



I watch/ listen to alternative media. Much more meat on the bones and a lot closer to the truth



Anyway the threads all yours i've had enough of this flatulence subject.

Goodbye Flatulence Stanley.

If I started walking East. At what point would I fall off the flat earth? China?

Regards

King James

What a complete and utter knob you are.

https://twitter.com/ProfBrianCox/status ... 8893267969

https://twitter.com/ProfBrianCox/status ... 8893267969

Please Sir! I know his answer to that one Sir!

You can't! You would be prevented by the Great Ice Wall which is at The Edge!

if you were thinking, how do they get to and from the permanently crewed station at the South Pole, and the many other places in Antarctica - they don't! If it doesn't fit with Great Ice Wall, then it is fake. Simples!


All fake? None of these countries actually have any such stations.

Sightseeing flights over and now to Antarctica- fake! Flights from S.America to Australia - fake! (They never ever fly, apparently, and even though you can book one like now, apparently you couldn't actually book if you actually tried. All the hundreds of thousands who claim to have flown these routes over the last few decades - liars plants or delusionals, all of them.

That's our Stan. Ask Stan - Stan knows. And, I got his take on the fake Tim Peake's fake flight to the fake ISS right in spades, didn't I?