Just remember, we all have more in common with an immigrant in a dinghy, than a millionaire trying to send them to Rwanda.

I must admit this government is very good a wasting taxpayers money. We had the cost of finding out that a bridge from Scotland to Nth Ireland was uneconomical and now we have good old Pritti whose idea to turn boats back to France was challenged in the courts. The wisdom of the home office despite being informed it would not be legal was to defend the stance right up to the last minute and then withdraw their objections. The court awarded that all costs to be met by the government aka us.
I expect it will be the same with Rwanda which so far has cost £120 million for the rushed signing of the agreement only. I suppose it was worth it to her because she needs de Pfeffel to stay PM because she like quite a few others would return to the back benches with the cheque book and pen taken away.
It is quite a statement when some in the Conservative party cannot think of anyone who they believe could replace de Pfeffel

The enemy of the working class doesn't arrive in a dinghy. They arrive in a superyacht.

No I am sorry but these three words do not help us locate your brain. I suppose it just doesn’t want to be found but who can blame it because would you want to be associated with you.

Sorry but he's correct. Anyone arriving in a boat from France, having paid thousands to a criminal gang, is an economic migrant and is NOT an asylum seeker in any way shape or form.

Sadly not only are you wrong the evidence says you are wrong they are not all economic migrants

However people arrive in the UK, if the then try to claim asylum, they are asylum seekers.
Whether anyone should be able to travel through multiple countries, before claiming asylum, is a different question.

You have to "smile" about the choice of Rwanda, when the government over there have said that there is a shortage of
young males because they have had so many leave the country in recent years ??

The elephant in the room being that it's not a great place to live.

Dehumanising others is Right Wing 101. Generating fear and finding a way to blame the poor for all that's wrong with the world, rather than their policies, is how they cling to power.

No they shouldn't be able to travel through other safe countries to claim asylum in their county of choice. It shouldn't be like choosing your annual holiday destination.

They are not that poor that they can't afford to pay criminal gangs thousands of pounds.

Indeed.
However, there's a fair bit of desperation there, to live in the camps around Calais and then risk your life to get to the UK.
It does make you wonder what the UK has, thet, say, France or Germany (or any other EU country) hasn't got.
After all, once someone has made it to an EU destination, they could pick any other country within that bloc and many 1000's do.

It's quite simple really, can't speak for other Countries but France makes it far more difficult to obtain asylum than the UK does, the process is more complicated and takes a lot longer, that's why they choose the UK. HTH.

Of course until we left the EU we were part of a system which allowed us to return people arriving in the UK to France or other EU countries. As part of taking back control we no longer have that option.

So we'd need the UK to withdraw from the UN Refugee Convention which explicitly states there is no 'first country' rule.

How far are people willing to go to make the UK a pariah country? It's not as if, in context, the UK has very many asylum seekers in the first place despite what the Mail and Express tell their readers.

How dare you destroy a Rant with Facts

I see your erectile dysfunction is still a problem then.

A big factor is probably language. There are more English speakers either as a first or second language than any other; it will make resettlement significantly easier if you can speak the language of that country. Leaving out the ease of the processes as I have no knowledge, I think it's probably appealing to go to somewhere which already has a sizeable community of people from the same country and we are quite a welcoming country anyway - despite what some on this forum would have you believe.

See your still giving opinions and defending one side even though you don't really want to be involved (Honestly)

Anything to contribute?

PS

Me & Conroy (Who BTW has had a name change on RLFans) used to have Erections every home game.
Sometimes I'd have one on my own, sometimes He'd help me with mine & Sometimes I'd help him with his

The Flags wouldn't go up on their own

France and Germany also have such communities.
Germany take far more asylum seekers/ immigrants than we do in the UK, maybe France too but, I'm not certain ?

In the Tory press, this is portrayed as a UK only issue, when it absolutely isn't.

The whole concept of remaining in the country where you were born no longer seems to apply and in fairness, why should anyone settle with the hand they are dealt, if they believe they can have a better life elsewhere.

The problem is that it's people can see how other nations function (internet etc) and if they can, why wouldn't they try to improve their lot ?

The flip side being that the almost 8 billion people cant all live in the same place.

I just have done below if it helps and it's not my opinion it's a fact, It's not rocket science it's there for you if you care to research it though I doubt you have the capability, which side am I defending when I say it's easier to get asylum in the UK ? bet you've got plenty of O. levels

Yes they (France) do - significantly more.

They've got a lot more room. About half the population density of the UK and about a QUARTER of England

LOL is this the latest right wing statistic that doesn't stand up to any scrutiny whatsoever?



Them furriners aren't welcome here. And it's ABSOLUTELY NOT because we can't stand the sight of them. No you see it's simply cos we're all living cheek by jowl here in the UK

Yet the facts do not support what you are saying.

1. High refusal rates

– The majority of UK asylum seekers’ claims (two in three) are turned down, the highest refusal rate in Europe. In Denmark, by contrast, four in five are successful.
2. Mistaken decisions

– A large number of initial decisions made by the Home Office on asylum cases are later found to be wrong. In 2016, the courts overturned Home Office decisions in 41% of asylum appeals.


What this shows is that 33% of those who arrive here via boats are accepted by the British Government , the British courts, the British civil service as being 100% Bona Fide asylum seekers .

Still let’s not let the boards little Tommy Robinson let facts get in the way of addressing the BIG problems that we face such as millions being unable to afford food, heating or proper beds for their children. It is all these forinners fault . Tommy, Farage , Bojo’s and wotsupcas’ arguement.

So 67% aren't genuine asylum seekers then? Many thanks for making my argument for me


Love the innuendo that objecting to illegal immigration makes me a knuckle dragging racist. Classy but not untypical of the left.

They do but they also have the unfortunate malady of speaking French and German which is a lot less attractive to someone who can speak their native language and English only. Add in the belief (correct or not) that their quality of life will be better in the UK I can see why someone who has been forced out of their own country is willing to take that risk.