I knacked the quote, apologies.

Pride really isn't a campaign, it's merely people celebrating who they are.

Always a laugh on "[iThe Sin Bin[/i" This thread is as good as any.

How is a hermaphrodite placed in the equation?

Is there even an equation?

Makes for a colourful and diverse world.

I've always assumed that 'camp' and 'butch' to be no different to 'feminine' or 'masculine' - just aspects of a personality. I know a couple of blokes who are as camp as they come, both of whom are straight as straight could be. One of them regularly uses it to bed some very attractive women....
The scooter scene is also very full of 'masculine' women, but they all seem to be married/living with bloke (who generally also rides a scooter).

I've lost track of the point I was trying to make now.



Anyway, when do we start on fetishes Minty?

Agreed. I was going to write something similar earlier. It is most emphatically not all about gender expectations. The differences between (most) boys and (most) girls is absolutely huge an inborn.

I thought the most interesting question that arose on here recently, (by accident) was the simple question: are people born gay?

Sub-question: to what extent is homosexuality a genetic thing?

It seems fair forum game, too, as googling around I see that despite myriad efforts nobody has either pinned down or disproved a "homosexuality gene". Maybe the smart money is on epigenetics.

Anyway, if the proposition is, you can't ehlp the sexual attraction that you're born with (however that happens), I was going quite well in defeating a mate in an argument about this until he came back with "OK then, if there is some sort of genetic thing, and you can't help it or choose it, how come so many are attracted to sex with animals? What gene is that and what point does it have?"

I'm still scratching my head.

Not been the case anywhere I've ever lived. Maybe it's a Yorkshire thing?

I'd guess it's more of a desperation thing.... "Any hole's a goal" taken to its logical conclusion.

See also prison, Royal Navy etc.

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[url=http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-20523950Ever been to Germany?[/url

www.ssrichardmontgomery.com/down ... irdsex.htm Takes all sorts as they say.

www.ssrichardmontgomery.com/down ... irdsex.htm Takes all sorts as they say.

I daren't even begin the tale of the rather strange magician act that they had on at Huddersfield Uni Students Union one Saturday night in the 1970s, I'm still not convinced that my memory is correct whether through drink or accidental drug inhalation but it involved the naked magician and his naked (not very glamorous) assistant, a chicken, a cockerel, several doves, an eagle owl and a very large tumescent Great Dane dog.

By far the wierdest thing I have witnessed in the name of entertainment.

Is everyone in agreement that it is not normal practice to wear your jumper back-to-front ?
If , however , some people choose to wear their jumpers in such a manner then they should be allowed to do so .


Wear your jumper however you like . Just don't keep battering on about how you want to be treated equal to people that wear their jumpers the right way round . Jumpers are designed to be worn one way , and one way only . If you wear it any other way then you are wearing it wrong .

That is all .

I suppose you think you're being very droll.

Total bull[is[/ihit, dressed up as homophobic-lite

Oh dear, oh dear.

Are we allowed a thread on fetishes ?

In [url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fetishismthis[/url or [url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Commodity_fetishismthis[/url way.

The other one

you know......

Oh yes, I know.

But I am attempting to keep this thread both within the confines of the AUP – and a sensible discussion of the subjects concerned.

However, in terms of the sort of fetish you mean, my own opinion is that fetishes are learned, in as much as they develop out of an experience or possibly even in reaction to an experience.

[url=http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-21788238Saw this on the BBC website and thought of the Sin Bin...[/url

I was just about to post that.



It's succinct, straightforward and really clear.

And backs up everything I said in the OP.

Very good article that. The continuum is undoubtedly the case, as it is with almost every human attribute.

The only (slightly comic) aside is that if the only requirement for a person to be sent to a particular jail is using an alternative gender name and claiming that they always wanted to be of the opposite sex, then jails would be mixed sex in very short order.

"Mr Kray would now like to be known as Ronata and seeks permission to have his collection of clothes and wigs moved to his cell..."