No, no, you misunderstand. If you fall short of the perfection the heavenly dictator demands, but you accept that you're a horrible, worthless sinner, then throw yourself at his feet and beg for mercy, he might just let you into heaven. He's a great guy really, if you can look past all the killing and stuff.

Maybe not scientific evidence, but then again science is concerned with the natural world, not the supernatural.



I can just as easily say that everyone who has looked at it critically will arrive at the same conclusion as me.



Other people can corroborate the power of baptism in the Holy Spirit - even people who didn't want to find God.

All DNA shows is that we have a common creator.

Have you heard the parable of the publican and the Pharisee?

He's probably a Satan-loving heretic, in kirkstaller's eyes.

clearly not al loudly as the voices in your head

I'll give you this, you are persistent, but you are a grade 1 idiot.

link to some evidence

link to some facts

explain why God is benevolent and vengeful at the same time

explain why your God hasn't struck me down, maybe he wants me to maintain the hell on earth of reading the utter garbage people like you spout....what a spiteful w@kr your God is, either way.

Look, you've really got to do better than this. All your statement does is confirm (not that there was any doubt) that you really don't understand the science. It's a poor way of debating to just stick your fingers in your ears and deny the evidence that every scientist on the planet has accepted.

What you really mean is I'm not convinced by your arguments against God and I'm sticking with Jesus. That must be really frustrating for people like you who have hardened their heart against God

I have just snotted weissbier all over my keyboard & screen

Quote ="Standee"clearly not al loudly as the voices in your head I'll give you this, you are persistent, but you are a grade 1 idiot. link to some evidence link to some facts explain why God is benevolent and vengeful at the same time explain why your God hasn't struck me down, maybe he wants me to maintain the hell on earth of reading the utter garbage people like you spout....what a spiteful w@kr your God is, either way.'" I'm not sure I can link to my own personal relationship with Jesus I can tell you more about it if you want? You could also try finding Jesus yourself. I suggest an Alpha course uk-england.alpha.org/ or your local church (make sure it is Bible-based). God hasn't struck you down because he is giving you the chance to come to him.

Quote ="Standee"clearly not al loudly as the voices in your head I'll give you this, you are persistent, but you are a grade 1 idiot. link to some evidence link to some facts explain why God is benevolent and vengeful at the same time explain why your God hasn't struck me down, maybe he wants me to maintain the hell on earth of reading the utter garbage people like you spout....what a spiteful w@kr your God is, either way.'" I'm not sure I can link to my own personal relationship with Jesus I can tell you more about it if you want? You could also try finding Jesus yourself. I suggest an Alpha course uk-england.alpha.org/ or your local church (make sure it is Bible-based). God hasn't struck you down because he is giving you the chance to come to him.

No, what I'm saying is that you don't understand the science, or you're choosing to ignore it. You can't just pretend it's not there. Every reputable scientist - even the Christian ones - accept evolution as scientific fact. If you don't accept it, your position is not based on evidence or reason, but blind faith.

I have, and it's as much a pile of bo[ill[/iocks as the rest of The Bible.

No true Christian accepts evolution. I'm not invoking the true Scotsman fallacy, it's just a logical contradiction.

I understand the science well enough, I just don't think it is infallible.

What do you think that story teaches us?

Not to take any notice of the bible

That people will believe any old sh[ii[/it if it appears in their favourite religious text?

Guess again.

No, thanks. I'll stick with my first answer, as it's the one the evidence best supports.

why guess, surely God wants us all to understand, and be living true and virtuous lives, made in his image, you know, the image of a spiteful vengeful old man who sacrificed his son to appease his own wrath?

E V I D E N C E

F A C T S

have any of those?

no, just delusion, and f'w'y in abundance.

Yawn.

Why don't you all just have an old fashioned duel or something.

Whoever loses dies. THE END.

Like the dark ages?

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Ey up, one of the resident right-wing nut-jobs has turned up.

Considering entering the debate at all or just doing your usual flaming again?

And you're wrong again. Science has frequently investigated the supernatural and found there to be no evidence to support the existence of it in the commonly accepted sense. Ditto the paranormal.


Only if you don't understand what critical analysis actually means.


Not objectively or independently. Which is the key point.