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| Quote ="wrencat1873"Not sure that's correct ?'"
It is if you listen to the Tories and their apologists.
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| Quote ="The Ghost of '99"It is if you listen to the Tories and their apologists.'"
Like Grant Shaps suggesting that travel has improved due to Brexit, apart from the fact that its getting more chaotic by the day.
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| I believe it was Penny Mordaunt who during the Brexit referendum suggested that if we stayed in we would be overrun by people from Turkey. The problem is that we had a veto which would have stopped Turkey joining anyway.
I think this makes her ideal to follow the traditions of all that de Pfeffel represented.
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| Quote ="Scarlet Pimpernell"I believe it was Penny Mordaunt who during the Brexit referendum suggested that if we stayed in we would be overrun by people from Turkey. The problem is that we had a veto which would have stopped Turkey joining anyway.
I think this makes her ideal to follow the traditions of all that de Pfeffel represented.'"
There seems little to choose between any of them.
More of the same but, hopefully, without quite so many lies ?
They are all tainted by their support for BJ and NONE of them have suggested any solution as to how ordinary people will be able to heat their homes this winter - I realise they are only trying to reach the Tory membership at this point but, the couldn't give a flying one for Joe Public.
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| Wow. Labour supporters standing up for peoples rights to choose not to work because they can’t be bothered to whilst living off the taxes working people pay
And you wonder why Labour will never win an election
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| Quote ="TheWarringtonWolve69"Wow. Labour supporters standing up for peoples rights to choose not to work because they can’t be bothered to whilst living off the taxes working people pay
And you wonder why Labour will never win an election'"
Bless, what a silly simple world you pretend to live in.
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| See the Rabid tories have chickened out of the nex tv debate and done a runner
A festering political party stuffed full of despots and loons
But still , Stupid Joe Public will vote for them
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| You have to love that both Sunak and Truss accept no responsibility for the last 12 years and seem surprised that the UK is in serious trouble, with roaring inflation, an energy crisis etc, which is causing wage demands to increase etc.
Both want to suggest that they are "new" and not complicit in what everyone is going through.
Right now there is very little that is "well" and their former boss remained in denial, right up to his shambolic exit from Parliament.
The energy crisis is THE big issue of the moment, followed by the situation in Ukraine and neither has a plan to deal with the energy crisis.
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| Quote ="wrencat1873"You have to love that both Sunak and Truss accept no responsibility for the last 12 years and seem surprised that the UK is in serious trouble, with roaring inflation, an energy crisis etc, which is causing wage demands to increase etc.
Both want to suggest that they are "new" and not complicit in what everyone is going through.
Right now there is very little that is "well" and their former boss remained in denial, right up to his shambolic exit from Parliament.
The energy crisis is THE big issue of the moment, followed by the situation in Ukraine and neither has a plan to deal with the energy crisis.'"
New leader, new party and new start just like when de Pfeffel took over. It worked once but not again, I note your MP was crying when PMQ,s ended, she’s heading for a fight with Nadine over who loves him the most.
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| Quote ="Scarlet Pimpernell"New leader, new party and new start just like when de Pfeffel took over. It worked once but not again, I note your MP was crying when PMQ,s ended, she’s heading for a fight with Nadine over who loves him the most.'"
There are 2 "stand out" candidates for PM, one who gave BJ 10/10 and one who looks so far out of her depth that she is going to need a lifebelt if it rains.
Both seem to have forgotten that they have been part of our shambolic government and both want us to "trust" them.
Well, luckily for one of them, we have no choice
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| I despise the Tories and Tory votes with every fibre of my being - they are up their with the Nazi’s for pure evilness.
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| Quote ="thickorthin"I despise the Tories and Tory votes with every fibre of my being - they are up their with the Nazi’s for pure evilness.'"
Oh dear
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| It has to be truss for me. She the only one able to take tough enough to the french and germans and northern ireland protocol. Sunak would most probably tell french and germans its ok they keep these customs tariffs on are goods!
You all laughed at Liz when she was in china selling british pork. But at least she was doing something to help make britain great britain again. What was Sunak doing? Paying the lay abouts furlough money to stay home and plotting against boris!
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| Quote ="Craig_David"It has to be truss for me. She the only one able to take tough enough to the french and germans and northern ireland protocol. Sunak would most probably tell french and germans its ok they keep these customs tariffs on are goods!
You all laughed at Liz when she was in china selling british pork. But at least she was doing something to help make britain great britain again. What was Sunak doing? Paying the lay abouts furlough money to stay home and plotting against boris!'"
I don’t really care who wins but those receiving the furlough payments were actually in employment. It was through no fault of theirs that the businesses they worked in were closed by the government.
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| Quote ="Scarlet Pimpernell"I don’t really care who wins but those receiving the furlough payments were actually in employment. It was through no fault of theirs that the businesses they worked in were closed by the government.'"
Rubbish they got to sit around in the sun while we had to work. Now the countries in debt and we are having to pay taxes for it. They should give us that worked through it less tax
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| Se the mess we are in now because they stabbed borris in the back. I don’t think neither of them are fit to do this borris was the best man for job. He made some mistakes but he was funny and a character these two are weird
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| Quote ="Craig_David"It has to be truss for me. She the only one able to take tough enough to the french and germans and northern ireland protocol. Sunak would most probably tell french and germans its ok they keep these customs tariffs on are goods!
You all laughed at Liz when she was in china selling british pork. But at least she was doing something to help make britain great britain again. What was Sunak doing? Paying the lay abouts furlough money to stay home and plotting against boris!'"
See above post, please make your mind up.
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| Quote ="Scarlet Pimpernell"See above post, please make your mind up.'"
I liked borris. It should be Nigel for pm that would finish the leftwaffe off for ever!
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| Quote ="Craig_David"I liked borris. It should be Nigel for pm that would finish the leftwaffe off for ever!'"
He would have to start another party or rejoin de Pffell and win a seat which is something he has failed to do on several occasions.
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| Quote ="Scarlet Pimpernell"He would have to start another party or rejoin de Pffell and win a seat which is something he has failed to do on several occasions.'"
Yeah because the left wing msm got it in for him because of there in Brussels pocket
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| Quote ="Craig_David"Yeah because the left wing msm got it in for him because of there in Brussels pocket'"
That's about right.
True Blue, never done anything wrong, it's always someone else's fault
It's always the Unions, The EU, biased press etc, etc
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| Quote ="wrencat1873"That's about right.
True Blue, never done anything wrong, it's always someone else's fault
It's always the Unions, The EU, biased press etc, etc'"
The right wing, who have governed the country for the vast majority of time since WW2, who are backed to an embarrassing degree by the press and whose economic ideology - privatisation, underfunded public services, Brexit, low taxes on capital and high incomes - shape our day to day lives in this country.
In their minds they are the real underdogs, they're the ones who are constantly oppressed.
It's the most pathetic thing about Tories - they have absolute power, they've got everything they want but they still constantly want to portray themselves as the victims whilst blaming others for the failure of all that they have done.
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| Quote ="Craig_David"It has to be truss for me. She the only one able to take tough enough to the french and germans and northern ireland protocol. Sunak would most probably tell french and germans its ok they keep these customs tariffs on are goods!
You all laughed at Liz when she was in china selling british pork. But at least she was doing something to help make britain great britain again. What was Sunak doing? Paying the lay abouts furlough money to stay home and plotting against boris!'"
I also laughed at her when she was selling cheese to Japan, where over 20% of their population is lactose intolerant.
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| Quote ="Anthony Jones"I also laughed at her when she was selling cheese to Japan, where over 20% of their population is lactose intolerant.'"
Don't know why that would be funny. Population of Japan is over 125 million. So only a 100 million market to aim for.
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| Quote ="wotsupcas"Don't know why that would be funny. Population of Japan is over 125 million. So only a 100 million market to aim for.'"
It's not really a new 100 million market to aim at though is it?
The Japanese full (WTO) duty rate on imports of cheese made from cows milk is 25%. The result of Liz's trade deal means imports of cheese from cows milk into Japan of UK origin will attract a duty rate of 14.6%.
What duty rate do imports of cheese made from cows milk of EU origin attract in Japan? That's right exactly the same 14.6%. So it's not a brexit benefit at all. It's actually what we enjoyed when members of the EU and that was trumpeted as a highlight of the deal.
What the government announce before the deals have been signed and ratified by the WTO aren't always what we end up with but the claim this deal went "far beyond what the EU had achieved in negotiations" was just a straight up lie. The Japanese announced at exactly the same time that this deal just represented a continuation of the EU deal.
Still at the rate our economy is going we might be enjoying the 0% duty rate of a least developed country before too long.
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