I'm interested in loads more issues old lad ,oops sorry hope i haven't mis gendered you ,i can't keep up with all these left wing fads

Deary me, you're so desperately insecure

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Well suprise suprise no-one can give an answer to my question, other than SP who chose the government's stats to vaguely give one ,yep the same government who he trust's implicitly


Oh and of course even asking the question means that im a daily mail reading white bigot

What don’t you trust the right wing government to produce accurate figures or is it they don’t give you the answer you crave. I would think the fact I used their figures shows even they can’t gloss over the facts and I am sure they will have tried. I have not been vague, my answer was quite clear but once again not what you wanted
I think by not accepting the facts makes you what you are.

Where did you get this summers crossings figures and stats from

So nobody's willing to answer my question, apart from SP who resorted to using last year's figures, plus of course a couple posters who resorted to outright deflection posts.
Let's face it we all know the answer to my question ,it just goes to show the left can't being themselves to actually acknowledge and tell the truth

Why should anyone answer your questions?
I thought you lot loved to "do your own research"?

You're just proving my point earlier ,this is an offtopic part of the forum where people should be able to have sensible discussions and challenge people's views, even answering their questions but because the answers don't suit the left wing narrative you again resort to deflection, and btw what's my lot?

Yeah you lost me at "sensible discussions". You're as transparent as Tucker Carlson "just asking questions"; your agenda is so clear.

And you are reinforcing my point that you can't have a discussion with a lefty and this is why the left have f**cked this country up


You can't answer a simple question and now you're going all out defensive

I can only assume you have been having a shower for the last thirteen years because I am sure it was the Conservatives in power, initially propped up by the Lib Dem’s. I suppose we could have been subject to a mass brainwashing into believing it was Labour running things. I thank you for correcting this because we could all have gone on believing Cameron, De Pfeffel, Truss and Sunak were Conservative.

Yep even more deflection

Anyone else got a view on this because I'm not getting anywhere with those 2 muppets above

Pot & Kettle spring to mind !

Maybe you might like to answer

You asked a question which i answered and told you where the information can be found. It is now up to you who raised the question to prove I am wrong and where I can find the evidence backing you up. If you can’t I would suggest you move onto another topic. I am sure you will have another designed to generate the type of responses you for some reason crave.
It’s a pity that Monty Python never actually created a department for those seeking verbal confrontation in their lives. I bet you would have made one interesting subject with all your built in insecurities.

If I'd asked the question but put last year instead of now then yeah the government figures would have been relevant but in a typical lefty disingenuous way you can't seem to give a straight answer

I’ve gone back far enough to find what I think is the question.

I believe the answer is ‘no’.

Hallelujah ,finally someone can give straight answer


Of course you are wrong though


They are just economic migrants, a fact that is recognised by any media outlet ,sans fronteire and most politicians, I mean the figures and stats that SP used included
Albanians ffs

So what we get from this, which we all knew already, is that Jonny was just looking for an excuse to reply saying someone was wrong.

So these fountains of wisdom would they be the Daily Mail, Express, Telegraph and GB News. I am sure you will be able to furnish us with all the others. With regards politicians I don’t think Lee Anderson counts nor does Farage who was never actually voted in to the U.K. government. I believe his record is 7 attempts and 7 failures.
I am also not sure what a Race Horse can bring to your argument but I guess you need to clutch at straws.
To exclude Albanians just makes your argument even weaker because they are recognised to be mainly economic migrants and you want to not include them in the figures.

To make it understandable to JG - NO

Perhaps I misunderstood then.

I took the question to be ‘do we all agree that…?’

I don’t believe your framing, assertions or definitions are universally accepted.

The reasons for that are quite complex as migration is a complex topic, but on another level also quite simple. There has been a cultural bifurcation. As the gap widens we shout ever louder but it gets increasingly difficult to hear from or to be heard by those on the other side.

On a personal level, I tend to see the arguments in terms of systems and economics. The emotive moralising about what is ‘right’ or ‘wrong’ doesn’t really resonate with me - it is just so predictable, easy and obviously for profit. Find an audience and give them what they want. Politics as entertainment.

Every time I go to the supermarket I can’t get in for rich Chinese Hong kongers, rich Indians, rich Afghans, and rich ukraines.

Must be half a million of them

And all buying houses which means local people can’t .

Who let all them in?

Don't forget trying to book a decent hotel that hasn't been turned into a migrant abode