The Turin Shroud I can live with, it has a stain that might look like a man, or not, and because it might look like a man doesn't mean that its the same man known from the bible as Jesus, he could have been a soft fat black man for all we know.

Anyway...

The Turin Shroud aside, when you see a Jesus face on a slice of toast - what does that mean, and why does he do things like that - to fook with the minds of the gullible ?

I bet he has a right laugh some days.

It's a signal to kirkstaller to put the kettle on.

still not answering your questions I notice, he's nearly as fickle as his god about making appearances.

I'm sure he'll be along presently with a link to 'Answers In Genesis', or summat.

You were the one who scuttled off last time.

As for evidence, by the far most convincing is the daily spiritual relationship I have with Jesus. Second is the historicity of Jesus of Nazareth. Third, the creation which surrounds us.

The what? FFS.

I see the clique are ganging up again!

The poster in question has chosen to join an already ongoing discussion, they have posted their views, people are allowed to challenge them, if the poster considers this bullying then they have the option to move on and not post on threads such as this.

Now if you have nowt else to add to the conversation I suggest you do one.

And he could be none of the above.

Let he who is without sin...

I prefer

“That which can be asserted without evidence, can be dismissed without evidence.”

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Epic fail.

It's a euphemism for [url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Historicity_of_Jesusfairytale[/url

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Quite so.
I am not saying he's right, just that he's not necessarily brainwashed.

I wonder if the author of that quote is feeling quite so smug now?

Do you think your post may offend some people?

Eh?
I can see past the small typo (mug = smug) but I haven't a clue what you mean.

Thanks, I've edited it now.



That quote is attributed to a very famous enemy of God. That individual will recently have had to give an account of himself. He will have had to explain his blasphemy, drunkenness, homosexual flings etc.

The Bible tells us that there is a Heaven and and Hell. I wonder which one he is in

No, do you and if so, why?

Neither.

I hate to shatter your illusions but his remains are probably in a (or some) laboratory fridge, after he donated his body to medical science. As an antitheist, he believed in neither heaven nor hell

Non-belief in something doesn't make it go away.

If a judge sentences a man to death, is he saved if he doesn't believe in the electric chair? Of course not. Hell exists whether you believe in it or not.

Sadly, I would guess that Hitchens is there right now.

One person's fervent belief/delusion does not constitute evidence. There are people in mental hospitals the world over who believe that they are Napoleon/Elvis/Florence Nightingale just as strongly as you believe that Jesus exists. The strength of their belief does not prove to anyone other than themselves that what they're saying is true.



Let's assume for a second that there is conclusive proof of a man named Jesus who lived in Nazareth around 2,000 years ago, upon whose life/teachings the Christian religion is founded. No such proof exists, but I'm willing to overlook that fact for the sake of argument. Proof that Jesus the man existed still wouldn't be proof that he was the Son of God, that he performed any of his impressive parlour tricks, or that he was born of a virgin mother. It most certainly wouldn't prove the existence of God. Does the fact that we can prove L. Ron Hubbard's existence mean that Scientology is true?



What surrounds us has been shown by science [inot[/i to have been created in anything like the way The Bible describes. Evolution, to take but one example, is a hard fact. All of the available evidence supports it. Man being created by God, on the other hand, is not supported by a single shred of evidence. Your Bible is so far wide of the mark, it even states that God separated the light and the dark [ibefore[/i he made the objects that actually emit light.

Belief in something doesn't make it appear.



Hell does not exist, whether you believe in it or not.



Sadly? If he has been such an 'enemy of God' surely Hell is the least he deserves?

I thought we ended our discussions when you admitted you weren't open to any debate?

CH won't be smug, theres nothing left of him to be smug, he donated his body to science.