But the former PM is an idiot, apparently.



The 'NO' campaign wanted Tony Blair to travel up there and make a couple of speeches on their behalf but then they started to realise the Scottish are sick to the back teeth of Tories.
Anyway, he's far too busy solving the problems in the Middle East.

Pretty much what I said, where was that attitude when the bugger was in number 10?

He has the freedom to make mistakes now (not that he didn't make mistakes in No 10), he's also not following in the shadow of a gormless beaming muppet.

Whoever takes over from Cameron (assuming someone does) will suffer the same thing, charisma is not a replacement for honesty, ability principles.

Salmond has no policy other than to "biff the English and give them a bloody nose"

All of which Brown has in spades

Correct.
That was his problem as opposed to the incumbent before and the one after.
He wasn't capable of whoring himself like that pair.

unfortunately they are Socialism based, and socialism doesn't work.

Socialism seemed to work pretty well when it was required to bail out the capitalist banking system in 2008.

But that's always the case with capitalism: privatise the profits and socialise the loss, a quick look at East Coast Trains should help you there

let's just leave our personal politics aside, and agree that Scotland makes the Union stronger.

The vast majority of Scots voters on both sides of this referendum would obviously prefer to be governed by anything other than the party that currently holds sway in the UK presently though.

I know plenty of Scots that are conservatives, they are just not very vocal.

Better, together.

They have one serving MP returned to Westminster from the 2010 General Election!

based on national pride, not rational thought.

Anyway, the referendum...

Even the Lib-Dums and their conservative leader won 11 seats.
Mind you, suppose one is better than none.

No need to be vocal to vote, just put your X on a piece of paper. You can do it in secret too!

Within my lifetime the tories have held the majority of seats in Scotland, they just watched them all dwindle away to one



I am still convinced of that but I must admit that a growing part of me is leaning towards "feck'em, let them wallow in their own mire"

Any Scots who think Salmond is a socialist are in for a very rude awakening.

He views TTIP as a "massive opportunity for Scotland", all they need do is look at how he bent over while Donald Trump dry-bummed him. He's already been called out over his lies on safeguarding the NHS.

Wee Eck is an obnoxious little upstart but I can't blame Scots for swallowing his rhetoric, we've got plenty South of the border who are falling for Farage's bollox too

don't disagree with any of that cod'ead

this time Friday we'll know, I expect the import text for Scotch doesn't quadruple!

We'll know by breakfast on Friday, don't worry

Think I'll tune into the Jon Snow hosted live debate at 10pm on C4 tonight.
Michelle Mone is a panellist so it'll make one of our Sin-Binners happy.


Guardian 2010 profile quote on Mone is fairly amusing -: ''she grew up a Scottish Labour voting Protestant and is now a Conservative voting Catholic who David Cameron invited to come and address his cabinet.''

I fully agree with you. As a critic of Gordon Brown in his previous roles I openly doff my cap to his passionate and effective intervention on behalf of the Better Together campaign. Under the timid leadership of Darling and Alexander the No campaign had never got out of first gear and it needed Buster Brown to shoulder charge his way to the front and give it some much needed momentum and challenge the lies that Salmond and co have been spouting about the National Health Service in Scotland. I hope it was not too late!

It's amazing how people behave when they realise they could be out of a job. He wasn't fighting for anything other than his personal gravy train.

Whatever the result, whoever wants to win the election next May is going to have to appease the Scots, soothe the English & battle against a surge in support for UKIP.

well not exactly, if the vote goes to the Yes party today then there's a good chance that there won't be a UK general election next year and even if there is then the soon-to-be English parliament isn't going to need to appease the Scots over anything.

We have a fixed term Parliament. That cannot be changed. The Scots will have to be appeased. A yes vote will mean negotiations to make it as clean a settlement as possible. In the event of a No, enough further devolution to shoot the independence fox.

There won't be an English Parliament. If the Scots do vote Yes, there is still a UK left. If they do vote Yes, the 59 Scottish constituencies represented in Westminster should be erased from the UK's political map prior to the 2015 General Election.

If they vote No & more powers are devolved to Holyrood, the vested interests of the Westminster elite, particularly those parties who will lose most seats, will deflect the West Lothian question through devolving some powers to the regions.

40 less Labour MP's last time would have meant a Conservative government. Going forward, this is a huge problem for the Labour party, which is why, apart from his recent visit, Cameron has been happy for them to do all the work for the Better Together campaign.

Yes it can

Whatever it takes for MM to get on. A complete slunt.

Interesting to see Andy Murray add his weight to the YES vote. Will that finally convince the strawberries and cream brigade that he IS Scottish after all?