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| Quote ="chissitt"Is a gormclop a native of Hull or Lisester?
Pass on the last question.'"
They’re everywhere!
So the best thing you can say about Boris is that he has apologised for some of his misdeeds and you’re not clear on what he’s done better than just anybody else in Parliament could have done response to the invasion of Ukraine.
That leaves WQ and I’m pretty sure he’s taking the pee.
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| Quote ="Mild Rover"They’re everywhere!
So the best thing you can say about Boris is that he has apologised for some of his misdeeds and you’re not clear on what he’s done better than just anybody else in Parliament could have done response to the invasion of Ukraine.
That leaves WQ and I’m pretty sure he’s taking the pee.'"
Who is, this biros?
You asked me tuther day what I thought was the best thing Boris has done, and not wanting to have to think about it for a couple of hours and then let you down, I said he'd apologised in the house, with me so far? and now your insinuating that I'm not clear that he's done any better than anybody else in Parliament, on that I'm pretty sure, that bloke Starmer sorry Kier and his merry band are only there for the entertainment value in the house along with the rest of them, it's a shame they don't provide the necessary buns to hurl across the floor instead of insults, it would be far more adult don't you think?, best leave it to one man it then looks like at least we know what we are doing.
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| Quote ="chissitt"Who is, this biros?
You asked me tuther day what I thought was the best thing Boris has done, and not wanting to have to think about it for a couple of hours and then let you down, I said he'd apologised in the house, with me so far? and now your insinuating that I'm not clear that he's done any better than anybody else in Parliament, on that I'm pretty sure, that bloke Starmer sorry Kier and his merry band are only there for the entertainment value in the house along with the rest of them, it's a shame they don't provide the necessary buns hurl across the floor instead of insults, it would be far more adult don't you think?, best leave it to one man it then looks like at least we know what we are doing.
WQ?'"
Biros is to Boris what Kier is to Keir. I thought it might be a way to indicate disrespect but if it is just that you didn’t know… then now you do, I guess.
I’m not insinuating.
You said he was excelling re: Ukraine, I asked how (vs what another random parliamentarian could achieve) and you passed. So I’m assuming you didn’t have any specific examples of excellence in mind. An absence of bad is as good as it gets even for his defenders now.
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| Quote ="Mild Rover"Biros is to Boris what Kier is to Keir. I thought it might be a way to indicate disrespect but if it is just that you didn’t know… then now you do, I guess.
I’m not insinuating.
You said he was excelling re: Ukraine, I asked how (vs what another random parliamentarian could achieve) and you passed. So I’m assuming you didn’t have any specific examples of excellence in mind. An absence of bad is as good as it gets even for his defenders now.'"
Kier/Keir sounds alike just spelt differently Boris/biros ah how silly of me not to see the obvious , I'll just have to be more careful in the future now I know I'm dealing with an officer from the grammar police, just out of interest don't you think it might have been easier to point out my error instead of being smart, in my defence I've always previously called him that bloke Starmer on the odd occasion that I've had to mention him with him being insignificant in the great scheme of things, lets face it everything he mumbles on about I can read it on here from your selective mates , as for showing disrespect, don't you have earn it first.
Not going through it all again who said this and who said that, I said he was excelling in the Ukraine and I passed on your question as in my opinion there is not anybody remotely qualified in Parliament to do the job, Maybe we have different opinions on his excelling in the media, maybe when Macron comes back from his jollies in Moscow things might alter, and we might see more of him and less of Boris.
Incidentally you never elaborated on WQ an oversight I'm sure
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| Quote ="Jukesays"Do you mind if I ask?
[uAre you really being serious[/u???'"
Well If I'm honest I did put a couple more Keirs in than was needed, but other than that all I am Guilty of his answering his post aimed at me three days after my original post, obviously there are things in there that you disagree with, please feel free to elaborate and post where you think I'm mistaken, tbh I probably won't reply as I've long since stopped trying to knock a nail in a knot in a piece of wood.
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| Quote ="chissitt"
Incidentally you never elaborated on WQ an oversight I'm sure'"
WQ is wire-quin.
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| Quote ="Mild Rover"WQ is wire-quin.
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Just glad it wasn't something I'd regret asking
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| They're economic migrants
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| Just remember, we all have more in common with an immigrant in a dinghy, than a millionaire trying to send them to Rwanda.
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| I must admit this government is very good a wasting taxpayers money. We had the cost of finding out that a bridge from Scotland to Nth Ireland was uneconomical and now we have good old Pritti whose idea to turn boats back to France was challenged in the courts. The wisdom of the home office despite being informed it would not be legal was to defend the stance right up to the last minute and then withdraw their objections. The court awarded that all costs to be met by the government aka us.
I expect it will be the same with Rwanda which so far has cost £120 million for the rushed signing of the agreement only. I suppose it was worth it to her because she needs de Pfeffel to stay PM because she like quite a few others would return to the back benches with the cheque book and pen taken away.
It is quite a statement when some in the Conservative party cannot think of anyone who they believe could replace de Pfeffel
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| Quote ="RoyBoy29"Just remember, we all have more in common with an immigrant in a dinghy, than a millionaire trying to send them to Rwanda.'"
The enemy of the working class doesn't arrive in a dinghy. They arrive in a superyacht.
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| Quote ="100% Wire"They're economic migrants'"
No I am sorry but these three words do not help us locate your brain. I suppose it just doesn’t want to be found but who can blame it because would you want to be associated with you.
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| Quote ="Scarlet Pimpernell"No I am sorry but these three words do not help us locate your brain. I suppose it just doesn’t want to be found but who can blame it because would you want to be associated with you.'"
Sorry but he's correct. Anyone arriving in a boat from France, having paid thousands to a criminal gang, is an economic migrant and is NOT an asylum seeker in any way shape or form.
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| Sadly not only are you wrong the evidence says you are wrong they are not all economic migrants
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| Quote ="wotsupcas"Sorry but he's correct. Anyone arriving in a boat from France, having paid thousands to a criminal gang, is an economic migrant and is NOT an asylum seeker in any way shape or form.'"
However people arrive in the UK, if the then try to claim asylum, they are asylum seekers.
Whether anyone should be able to travel through multiple countries, before claiming asylum, is a different question.
You have to "smile" about the choice of Rwanda, when the government over there have said that there is a shortage of
young males because they have had so many leave the country in recent years ??
The elephant in the room being that it's not a great place to live.
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| Quote ="Scarlet Pimpernell"Sadly not only are you wrong the evidence says you are wrong they are not all economic migrants'"
Dehumanising others is Right Wing 101. Generating fear and finding a way to blame the poor for all that's wrong with the world, rather than their policies, is how they cling to power.
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| Quote ="wrencat1873"However people arrive in the UK, if the then try to claim asylum, they are asylum seekers.
Whether anyone should be able to travel through multiple countries, before claiming asylum, is a different question.
You have to "smile" about the choice of Rwanda, when the government over there have said that there is a shortage of
young males because they have had so many leave the country in recent years ??
The elephant in the room being that it's not a great place to live.'"
No they shouldn't be able to travel through other safe countries to claim asylum in their county of choice. It shouldn't be like choosing your annual holiday destination.
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| Quote ="The Ghost of '99"Dehumanising others is Right Wing 101. Generating fear and finding a way to blame the poor for all that's wrong with the world, rather than their policies, is how they cling to power.'"
They are not that poor that they can't afford to pay criminal gangs thousands of pounds.
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| Quote ="wotsupcas"No they shouldn't be able to travel through other safe countries to claim asylum in their county of choice. It shouldn't be like choosing your annual holiday destination.'"
Indeed.
However, there's a fair bit of desperation there, to live in the camps around Calais and then risk your life to get to the UK.
It does make you wonder what the UK has, thet, say, France or Germany (or any other EU country) hasn't got.
After all, once someone has made it to an EU destination, they could pick any other country within that bloc and many 1000's do.
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| Quote ="wrencat1873"Indeed.
However, there's a fair bit of desperation there, to live in the camps around Calais and then risk your life to get to the UK.
[uIt does make you wonder what the UK has, thet, say, France [/uor Germany (or any other EU country) hasn't got.
After all, once someone has made it to an EU destination, they could pick any other country within that bloc and many 1000's do.'"
It's quite simple really, can't speak for other Countries but France makes it far more difficult to obtain asylum than the UK does, the process is more complicated and takes a lot longer, that's why they choose the UK. HTH.
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| Quote ="wotsupcas"No they shouldn't be able to travel through other safe countries to claim asylum in their county of choice. It shouldn't be like choosing your annual holiday destination.'"
Of course until we left the EU we were part of a system which allowed us to return people arriving in the UK to France or other EU countries. As part of taking back control we no longer have that option.
So we'd need the UK to withdraw from the UN Refugee Convention which explicitly states there is no 'first country' rule.
How far are people willing to go to make the UK a pariah country? It's not as if, in context, the UK has very many asylum seekers in the first place despite what the Mail and Express tell their readers.
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| Quote ="The Ghost of '99"Of course until we left the EU we were part of a system which allowed us to return people arriving in the UK to France or other EU countries. As part of taking back control we no longer have that option.
So we'd need the UK to withdraw from the UN Refugee Convention which explicitly states there is no 'first country' rule.
How far are people willing to go to make the UK a pariah country? It's not as if, in context, the UK has very many asylum seekers in the first place despite what the Mail and Express tell their readers.'"
How dare you destroy a Rant with Facts
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| Quote ="Jukesays"How dare you destroy a Rant with Facts'"
I see your erectile dysfunction is still a problem then.
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| Quote ="wrencat1873"Indeed.
It does make you wonder what the UK has, thet, say, France or Germany (or any other EU country) hasn't got.'"
A big factor is probably language. There are more English speakers either as a first or second language than any other; it will make resettlement significantly easier if you can speak the language of that country. Leaving out the ease of the processes as I have no knowledge, I think it's probably appealing to go to somewhere which already has a sizeable community of people from the same country and we are quite a welcoming country anyway - despite what some on this forum would have you believe.
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| Quote ="chissitt"I see your erectile dysfunction is still a problem then.'"
See your still giving opinions and defending one side even though you don't really want to be involved (Honestly)
Anything to contribute?
PS
Me & Conroy (Who BTW has had a name change on RLFans) used to have Erections every home game.
Sometimes I'd have one on my own, sometimes He'd help me with mine & Sometimes I'd help him with his
The Flags wouldn't go up on their own
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