Actually it is about brand Britain .

Support us in our campaigns/ wars / struggles but by the way we will drop you if the going gets tough.

Don’t trust us because we will sell you out which is exactly the same argument that the Tories are using against Biden.

Sorry if we have left up to 5000 ex British employees to be hunted down by isis and the taliban.

Boris could’ve sent the Gurkhas in but sold them out already

Could be worse. Could be a Labour government who left a million Middle Eastern innocents to their deaths.

Oh sorry, that didn’t matter because they weren’t white skinned

The tories slay British lives faster than Labours NHS saves British lives

I don’t think those in Afghanistan will be white skinned either unless that is a condition for them to become interpreters or be employed serving the British.

Something of a distraction post you have put there.

No one was more critical of Blair and Iraq than me . Might have been 15 years I stopped voting Labour in that time.

Was he not marxist enough for you

Not supporting invading other countries is not just the preserve of the left .

But unfortunately it seems that for most people on her including you , it seems you can only understand complex issues in simple terms.

Politics is not just left and right there are many grey areas.

I also opposed the Labour Party on PFI which was / is a disaster

Did you think of Blair as the son of Thatcher like my dad did,he hated him

Not really I voted Blair in the first election. I was really hoping for some change and felt positive it could be delivered in terms of a more tolerant and fairer society .

Initially there were lots of good things investment in public services and loads of new schools and hospitals . When I understood how they were being paid for and the consequences of it I was appalled

Minimum wage, FOI and human rights act, civil partnerships for gay couples were great.

But when he became a god bother and went into Iraq all that changed. He became so imbued in his sense of righteousness that he lost the plot. Possibly influenced by alistair Campbell.


By this time I began to loathe him and everything he has said or done afterwards has confirmed to me he is c***

Thats Afghanistan done, lets move on to new news.

Those who have criticised Britains historical colonial past will be pleased that we have finally left Afghanistan and allowed Afghanis to decide there own future.

I don’t think you can just ignore those we have left behind and just move on even though Johnson will try.

Not really they now have to face up to their responsibilities . Something that those who oppose those invasions regularly point out but it never seems to come into judgement of those who make the decisions whether that be Cameron Blair or Johnson

The Afghans will have little say in their future given the malign influence being exerted there by so many other countries - twas ever thus.

Indeed

Well well we agree unfortunately for you that's the nearest you will see to a socialist government in your lifetime

Bet the normal Afghans can't wait

Afghanistan certainly is done but, it will be the Russians, Chinese and others that decide it's future, not the Afghan people.
As for Britains colonial past, there will always be issues if we try and compare the actions of 150+ years ago with how we try to behave these days although, some people do seem to think that Britain still rules the world but, we are a little way down the pecking order.

Who are the normal Afghans?

We are, and that's why it's a positive that we aren't in Afghanistan any longer.

Personally, i think the Yanks left all that gear behind for the Taliban in order them to be able to fight any future incursions from any number of America's 'enemies'. Nobody could botch a withdrawal that badly on purpose.

Could they?

They did it Vietnam and Somalia, so why not?

Not the Taliban ,people who enjoyed freedom ,girls and women being able to choose what they want to do ,like get an education and jobs,even guys who want to wear a pair of Jean's even

Not the Republicans and Supreme Court, people who enjoyed freedom, girls and women being able to chose what they want to do, like get an abortion. (Roe v Wade), even guys who don’t want to wear a pair of jeans even lol

This is a country that historically has never had that, bar the last few years.