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| Quote ="Steph Curry"On the back of the most popular budget in a decade, the conservatives now hold a massive 13 point lead over Labour and their embarassing leader Starmer'"
Will change when the tax increases kill the working man.
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| Quote ="atomic"Will change when the tax increases kill the working man.'"
Proof please that the tories massive 13 point lead will change
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| Quote ="atomic"Will change when the tax increases kill the working man.'"
That your hero voted for? Lmao
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| I didn't realise there were tax increases for working people?
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| Quote ="Zoo Zoo Boom"I didn't realise there were tax increases for working people?'"
They are freezing the personal allowance for five years. That is a measure which strikes at the real incomes of lower earners with almost surgical precision.
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| Quote ="Steph Curry"Proof please that the tories massive 13 point lead will change'"
Absolutely certain and no proof needed.
Did it not change to get to where it is or, have they always had a 13% lead
And STILL blue eyed boy, Sunak has done nothing to claw back any of the unprecedented public spending - a corporation tax rise in 2023 hardy counts.
NEVER in my life time has any chancellor been able to spend such colossal amounts of cash with out ANY checks and balances.
He suggested that there would be £17billion pounds of cuts in public spending (not yet of course) and no mention as to just where these cuts could come from and his claims were rubbished by the IFS.
It's easy to spend but, a little more difficult to balance the books - lets see how popular he and the Tories are when the the spending spree stops and the "levelling up" begins.
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| Quote ="wrencat1873"Absolutely certain and no proof needed.
Did it not change to get to where it is or, have they always had a 13% lead
And STILL blue eyed boy, Sunak has done nothing to claw back any of the unprecedented public spending - a corporation tax rise in 2023 hardy counts.
NEVER in my life time has any chancellor been able to spend such colossal amounts of cash with out ANY checks and balances.
He suggested that there would be £17billion pounds of cuts in public spending (not yet of course) and no mention as to just where these cuts could come from and his claims were rubbished by the IFS.
It's easy to spend but, a little more difficult to balance the books - lets see how popular he and the Tories are when the the spending spree stops and the "levelling up" begins.'"
But but but but... Jeremy Corbyn would have been even worse!
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| Quote ="wrencat1873"Absolutely certain and no proof needed.
Did it not change to get to where it is or, have they always had a 13% lead
And STILL blue eyed boy, Sunak has done nothing to claw back any of the unprecedented public spending - a corporation tax rise in 2023 hardy counts.
NEVER in my life time has any chancellor been able to spend such colossal amounts of cash with out ANY checks and balances.
He suggested that there would be £17billion pounds of cuts in public spending (not yet of course) and no mention as to just where these cuts could come from and his claims were rubbished by the IFS.
It's easy to spend but, a little more difficult to balance the books - lets see how popular he and the Tories are when the the spending spree stops and the "levelling up" begins.'"
Go on, just where do you suggest we immediately start clawing back whilst still in the middle of the pandemic?
Even Starmer supports delaying corp.tax rise.
Theres never been a pandemic in your lifetime.
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| Well, a million more people will start paying income tax from April, so there's that.
Labour are a shambles and more unelectable than they were with Corbyn.
The Torries have flanked them on several issues, including taxation, Brexit, regional government, and infrastructure investment.
The fact that Labour have managed to fall further behind the tories despite them being completely incompetent says it all, and if the vaccine rollout continues to go well leading into the May elections then I wouldn't surprise to see them increase their majority.
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| Quote ="The Ghost of '99"But but but but... Jeremy Corbyn would have been even worse!'"
Well I don’t think many would argue with that
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| Quote ="ColD"Well I don’t think many would argue with that'"
The level of brainwashing in the UK is terrifying.
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| Quote ="The Ghost of '99"The level of brainwashing in the UK is terrifying.'"
It is. They're basically saying, "it might be bad but not as bad as a scenario which only exists hypothetically."
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| Quote ="The Ghost of '99"They are freezing the personal allowance for five years. That is a measure which strikes at the real incomes of lower earners with almost surgical precision.'"
That is not the same as a tax increase is it? That presupposes personal allowance will increase every year? Does it mean they draw less money? Surely the movement in minimum wage is the key factor here - that drives all wages upwards.
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| Quote ="TURFEDOUT"Go on, just where do you suggest we immediately start clawing back whilst still in the middle of the pandemic?
Even Starmer supports delaying corp.tax rise.
Theres never been a pandemic in your lifetime.'"
My point is that Sunak is hailed as some kind of "world beating" chancellor and he hasn't begun to be tested yet.
Also just imagine (I know it's hard) but, just imagine if a Labour Chancellor had introduced these measures.
Hell, there is unrest in the Tory ranks at one of their own bringing in some of these measures, just imagine if McDonnel had been in Sunak's seat.
There is a HUGE debt to pay down and the Tories should and hopefully will be judged when they chose juts who this burden will fall upon.
The cast iron certainty is that those at the bottom of the pile will be squeezed ever harder.
Where do you think he will cut the £17 billion of public spending or, maybe there will be another U turn.
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| Quote ="wrencat1873"My point is that Sunak is hailed as some kind of "world beating" chancellor and he hasn't begun to be tested yet.
Also just imagine (I know it's hard) but, just imagine if a Labour Chancellor had introduced these measures.
Hell, there is unrest in the Tory ranks at one of their own bringing in some of these measures, just imagine if McDonnel had been in Sunak's seat.
There is a HUGE debt to pay down and the Tories should and hopefully will be judged when they chose juts who this burden will fall upon.
The cast iron certainty is that those at the bottom of the pile will be squeezed ever harder.
Where do you think he will cut the £17 billion of public spending or, maybe there will be another U turn.'"
£17bn - easy - just reduce the level of waste in the public sector - there is currently £83bn in medical negligence claims outstanding in respect of NHS work. Whilst I appreciate things go wrong - a bit more care and your £17bn goes away
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| They could have saved a fortune not supporting their friends in the private sector for non existent PPE or a poorly developed and operated Track and Trace.
The claims you refer to are also brought by those solicitors in the private sector, many are just ridiculous but sadly need to be investigated.
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| Quote ="wrencat1873"My point is that Sunak is hailed as some kind of "world beating" chancellor and he hasn't begun to be tested yet.
Also just imagine (I know it's hard) but, just imagine if a Labour Chancellor had introduced these measures.
Hell, there is unrest in the Tory ranks at one of their own bringing in some of these measures, just imagine if McDonnel had been in Sunak's seat.
There is a HUGE debt to pay down and the Tories should and hopefully will be judged when they chose juts who this burden will fall upon.
The cast iron certainty is that those at the bottom of the pile will be squeezed ever harder.
Where do you think he will cut the £17 billion of public spending or, maybe there will be another U turn.'"
When the pandemic is "over" we will likely get a better idea of where the cut backs and clawing back will come from.
Then people may be in a better place to have a more informed opinion on Sunak.
But,youve already decided those "at the bottom of the pile" will be squeezed ever harder, personally i expect everybody to be squeezed.
Sorry,but struggling to imagine a Labour Chancellor in my lifetime....
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But,youve already decided those "at the bottom of the pile" will be squeezed ever harder, personally i expect everybody to be squeezed.
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Are you serious ?
Benefits, Education & Health are the big three "drains" on spending.
It seems accepted that post pandemic, health will be difficult to cut, which leaves education and benefits/social care plus of course tax increases.
Remembering that the latter is not part of the Tory DNA, a further purge on benefits and local services seem most likely but, I'm interested to see how "Saint Sunak" actually balances the books.
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| Quote ="Steph Curry"That your hero voted for? Lmao'"
I’ll leave the voting to puppets like you.
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| Quote ="wrencat1873"Are you serious ?
Benefits, Education & Health are the big three "drains" on spending.
It seems accepted that post pandemic, health will be difficult to cut, which leaves education and benefits/social care plus of course tax increases.
Remembering that the latter is not part of the Tory DNA, a further purge on benefits and local services seem most likely but, I'm interested to see how "Saint Sunak" actually balances the books.'"
I didn't realise Education was just for "those at the bottom of the pile"
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| Quote ="Scarlet Pimpernell"They could have saved a fortune not supporting their friends in the private sector for non existent PPE or a poorly developed and operated Track and Trace.
The claims you refer to are also brought by those solicitors in the private sector, many are just ridiculous but sadly need to be investigated.'"
NHS paid out £2.4bn yes £2.4bn in claims last year - if we accept that at least 5% waste can stripped out that's another £6bn - £17bn across the whole of the public sector is a drop in the ocean.
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| Quote ="Zoo Zoo Boom"NHS paid out £2.4bn yes £2.4bn in claims last year - if we accept that at least 5% waste can stripped out that's another £6bn - £17bn across the whole of the public sector is a drop in the ocean.'"
Maybe if they hadn't been underfunded less mistakes would gave happened, you know, through better training, more staff etc.
But yeah, you carry in blaming them, I guess the teachers will be to blame as well at some point.
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| Quote ="Jukesays"Maybe if they hadn't been underfunded less mistakes would gave happened, you know, through better training, more staff etc.
But yeah, you carry in blaming them, I guess the teachers will be to blame as well at some point.'"
Yup, they're happy to attack the poorly paid and the powerless. As if those fat cat nurses and teachers were the root of our problems.
You honestly couldn't make it up but people like the previous poster genuinely believe this stuff.
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| Quote ="wrencat1873"Absolutely certain and no proof needed.
Did it not change to get to where it is or, have they always had a 13% lead
And STILL blue eyed boy, Sunak has done nothing to claw back any of the unprecedented public spending - a corporation tax rise in 2023 hardy counts.
NEVER in my life time has any chancellor been able to spend such colossal amounts of cash with out ANY checks and balances.
He suggested that there would be £17billion pounds of cuts in public spending (not yet of course) and no mention as to just where these cuts could come from and his claims were rubbished by the IFS.
It's easy to spend but, a little more difficult to balance the books - lets see how popular he and the Tories are when the the spending spree stops and the "levelling up" begins.'"
So no proof. Thought so.
Tories to win another embarassing land slide election.
The champagne socialists don’t have a clue what they are doing
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| Quote ="Steph Curry"So no proof. Thought so.
Tories to win another embarassing land slide election.
The champagne socialists don’t have a clue what they are doing'"
You know supporting political parties isn't supposed to be like supporting a football or RL team, right?
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