It's the only explanation & it saves time.

I would certainly advise anyone thinking of taking Donald out to look at the consequences, the most terrifying of which is President Pence. He makes Trump seem mild mannered

Bang on Brisbane. There was an article recently in the New York Times about how peoples “likes” on Facebook were ensuring that content was targeted at them and this applied to political articles. This serves to provide people with an increasingly biased supply of information that tends to reinforce views and in some cases provoke more extreme views. Users end up in their own “echo chamber” of like minded people and never see an alternative view. I think it serves to polarise views, especially when you see the comments under articles where users resemble an angry mob with pitchforks and flaming torches.

This happened during Brexit and during the US election. Suppliers of content will eventually become like the newspaper barons as it becomes the way to influence and reinforce the views of voters.

Unfortunately centrist views just don’t get the clicks. The real world is too complicated for people to engage with via social media as it can’t be condensed easily. Politicians have been shying away from the complicated nature of things for years (see the new Adam Curtis doc) in favour of a simplified view of the world that can be sold to the electorate more easily.

Where do we go from here? I don’t know. I heard someone today, think it was Gerd Wilders saying how right wing populism will win every time. The centre needs to communicate better in order to discredit these populist snake oil salesmen or he’ll be right.

But we have passports, travel and have news programmes. Whats your point?

People feel disenfranchised. Someone articulates their feelings and they get on board. Sometimes they’re so fed up they’re prepared to overlook aspects they might disagree with. The rest of the political establishment is out of touch and unable to connect with disenfranchised groups. It then has to play catch up to the populist who trades on being an “outsider” and the only one who understands them and is not an “elitist”. The establishment can’t win because no matter what the facts are they are committed to “change” and have invested hope in the populist.

Centrist politicians need to reconnect with the public and get out of their own echo chamber. Mainstream parties have been too busy to cosy up to lobbyists and have forgotten about who they’re meant to represent.

The media meanwhile love a controversy and flock around someone who “tells it like it is”. This then sets the agenda. Farage and the right have been very effective at doing that for the past 6 years. Centrist views just don’t get the clicks/airtime. There seems to be a vacuum at the moment in the centre. The loudmouths on the fringes are getting all the attention and nobody is properly able to hold them to account.

Spot on. They complain that Trump/Brexit are lazy and don't bother to research more and just listen to what they'll told......but then hypocritically and lazily just say all Trump/Brexit voters are racist. Sure they'll be a fair few but to put it all down to that is showing the same laziness and just reading/hearing sound bites they agree with that they accuse opposition voters of.

In the long term these results could had a good effect in that it has at least given people a wake up call and slap in the face......if they truely can be bothered to find out why we got these results and not just blame it on racism.

*BTW are the 8% of black people who voted for Trump and the 28% of Hispanics & Latinos who did likewise white racists too???

That's how I see it. There were an ever growing series of small problems which weren't getting addressed, now there's one big problem which can't be escaped.

An effective solution depends on whether people are prepared to take everything from all quarters on board, however, judging from some of the elitist opinions the division may just grow even bigger.

I saw a US analyst suggest that in this particular demographic, their sexism overcame what would appear to be a natural opposition to Trump; in short, they'd rather have him, than a woman, in the top job.

The lunatic fringe of the liberal left won't know where to direct their outrage with that one.

It's no use arguing unless we get our facts straight (unless you are Trump) "7% of Americans have a passport." No. It's about 46%. www.theexpeditioner.com/2010/02/ ... assport-2/ " Around 70% of Americans have never travelled more than 30 miles from where they were born." This does not meet the large numbers who use both intranational and international transport. I always wonder who comes up with such statistics ... they've been overturned even for the Middle Ages. Anyway, in 2014, passenger miles for cars etc. came to 4,371,706,000,000 which with a population of about 320,000,000 suggests an average travel of 13,709 miles so they travel that 30 miles 459 times a year. No wonder they voted Trump, that's a lot of journeys with no change of scenery. www.rita.dot.gov/bts/sites/rita. ... 01_40.html Trump used lies and myths, that's why he was and is wrong.

It's no use arguing unless we get our facts straight (unless you are Trump) "7% of Americans have a passport." No. It's about 46%. www.theexpeditioner.com/2010/02/ ... assport-2/ " Around 70% of Americans have never travelled more than 30 miles from where they were born." This does not meet the large numbers who use both intranational and international transport. I always wonder who comes up with such statistics ... they've been overturned even for the Middle Ages. Anyway, in 2014, passenger miles for cars etc. came to 4,371,706,000,000 which with a population of about 320,000,000 suggests an average travel of 13,709 miles so they travel that 30 miles 459 times a year. No wonder they voted Trump, that's a lot of journeys with no change of scenery. www.rita.dot.gov/bts/sites/rita. ... 01_40.html Trump used lies and myths, that's why he was and is wrong.

End of the day he's only a front man for the real people who run the country. It's going to be hilarious watching him for the next 4 years. I remember when Ali G interviewed him and his "business was even being done hundreds of millions of years ago" quote

Regards

King James

Bang on. The smartest most powerful people don't put themselves in the public eye. They were there before Trump, before Obama and will be there pulling the strings after Trump has gone.

The US president the most powerful man in the world? He's about as powerful as a checkout girl at Tesco.

Do you feel the same way about the British establishment?

If so, why did you bother voting for Brexit?

I didn't vote for Brexit.

I love the fact their has to be some sort of prejudice that serves as motivation. If isn't racism, it's sexism. If it isn't sexism, it's homophobia. If it isn't homophobia, it's xenophobia. God forbid some actually think Clinton would be worse than Trump.

He didn't get the protest vote, Dem's just didn't vote in the same way they did for BO.

Trump's putting together some cabinet, they'll be no stopping him with the senate and congress. And he'll get probably the next 4 on the supreme court.

Exactly.

She was being bankrolled by nine out of the ten biggest global arms manufacturers and who can forget how she gleefully laughed on camera upon hearing of the death of a leader she helped to illegally depose.

It was a choice between a nationalist sexist biggot or a globalist neo-liberal warmonger - I would have refused to vote for either personally.

Which is still an option for the electoral college - they have the option of becoming a 'faithless elector' and voting against their candidate, or for neither; can't see it happening, but it is an outside chance.

I'm surprised that more hasn't been made of the FBI's intervention.
2 weeks to go to polling day, Clinton with a 7 point lead in the polls and they go public on the e mail investigation, which has still come to nothing.
What was their motivation and why make such a noise in public, so close to polling day

What happened 2/3 weeks before polling - all this stuff about Trump and the women - why didn't this come out earlier?

Because nobody thought he had a chance - soon as it became evident he did what happened?

I don't see what the the big deal is. No ones gonna start any world wars. Nuclear arms prevent that. You have nukes, so do we, if we start using them we'll destroy each other.

I think we'll see trump transition now into something more ''presidential''. I think he's very clever and took on the persona he did because he knew there were voters he could tap into who were sick of politicians. From what I've seen and read trump voting Americans seemed to understand this. One guy interviewed had never voted before...in his life. He said he would probably get down to vote for trump, his reason? He needed to put food on the table. He needed to feed his family and he believed trump would give a better chance of an improvement in his circumstances than Clinton.

Anyway, some are speculating trump winning over clinton will work out better for us in light of brexit, every cloud eh?

They're all just puppets.

There is little doubt that he will become "more presidential", after all, after the way that he behaved during the campaign, it would be impossible to be less so.
However, that just doesn't excuse some of the stuff that he said, which, was "over the line", especially for a person wanting the highest political position in the world.
He wasn't a bloke down the pub, who had had a bit to drink, he was, campaigning for the top job.
For all of our sake's, we have to hope that those around him will exert some control and act as the voice of reason.
As for improving "our" position after Brexit, we still have to see whether our own parliament goes through with it.
As the months have passed since the referendum, fewer and fewer MP's seem willing to go through with it.

The political landscape is changing and not necessarily for the better, the days of politicians having ideals and principles is long gone, which is a crying shame.

Why would anything more be made of it? We all what happened. We all know HC isn't going to jail and we know every threat won't happen. In political contests we can now say what we want, there's no come back.

Draintheswamp = increase the swamp, look what's he's doing right now!

Earlier? They brought it out to early, trump timed the fbi email dump to perfection.