I dunno what Cronus was searching for, but AFAIK it is illegal to have snuff images of kids on your PC and I seem to have heard the "merely research" defence before somewhere

There's a section for this on p*rnhub

Funny how the man charged with bringing peace to the Middle East does a disappearing act every time more trouble breaks out. What are you doing Tony?

Whilst I agree with every point raised by Cronius, there is a part of me that thinks, why bloody us again? Our defence industry has made billions selling top grade military kit to the Saudis, UAE, Qatar etc.

There's more than enough there for those Arabs to get off their s and take care of the problem the whole region is facing.

And has anyone heard one squeak of condemnation from any Muslim Authority here in the UK? I asked a couple of Asian friends, "Why the silence?" The reply was an eye opener...."They (ISIS) are already amongst us.....they are actively recruiting our young men....they know where we live! That's why we're saying nowt!"

And of course, there are a good few hundred Brits out there in the ISIS ranks that will be looking to come home sometime.

Deal with it now, even if that means boots on the ground as part of a UN backed coalition. Otherwise,the consequences could be horrendous.

Maybe if the 3 million or so Iraqi soldiers didnt run from the initial 800 ISIS, the world wouldnt be in this predicament.

'murica and the UK have spent $2trillion trying to rebuild Iraq, for some rogues in black masks to come take it and all the equipment/cash. Yep, that was worth it.

Given the amount of american oil companies that reside in Kurdistan, was it really any co incidence 'murica got involved when ISIS were 25 miles from it?

Regards

King James

www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-28862268 Sh*t just got real

www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-28862268 Sh*t just got real

IS has effectively just signed its own death warrant.

B*stards, the lot of 'em. They're smart though, having one of their British fighters carrying the execution, they know exactly what they're doing.

You would like to think so wouldn't you. It will be interesting to see what Obama does now.

Regards

King James

Of course. But while it gets the attention of the public around the world. It also concentrates the attention of the US military squarely on them.

I'd actually say it's a pretty dumb thing to do.

Yep. He'll have to respond in some fashion. And he can't now allow a campaign against IS to just fizzle out after a few weeks of bombing them. He'll have to see it through to the end now.

He is not British - It is the one thing through all this that seriously winds me up, when they describe these jihadists as 'British'.... They lose the right to be called British, the moment that they sign up for this nonsense.

Our authorities know who these scum are who are signing up for this 'holy' war - Simply, their passports should be voided and they should never ever step foot back in this country (if they attempt it).

remember the crusades?

How on earth do you "void" the passport of someone who was born and raised here?

The state cannot simply make a British citizen stateless, no matter what crimes they may have committed.

You've come up with some wild [is[/ihit it the past but this surpasses anything previous

Not one born here, no, but a naturalised one, yes. And apparently in recent times the Home Secretary has served at least 27 Notices of Deprivation, doing exactly that, regardless.

By an astonishing co-incidence, at least 2 of those were killed by US drones shortly afterwards.

But, we did in 1961 sign up to the UN Convention on the Reduction of Statelessness, so that's all right.

I thought passports can be confiscated/cancelled without any need for any legal process does it not say that inside your passport? Is the issue of the passport not at the discretion on the Home Office?

What does the 1961 convention state ?

Nigel Farage has been promoting himself as a sage on everything on TV again by declaring that there is a law still in force from the 1870s that allows the country to remove citizenship from anyone found to be guilty of aiding a foreign state, he believes it was used in the two world wars for anyone who opted to fight for Germany (for instance).

Its possible that Nigel may not have researched the subject properly though.

If the guy carrying out that execution was born and raised in Britain, and has a British passport, then he is technically Brtish, regardless of his actions.

Still a horrible c*nt, though.

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To pick a single point

How is this relevant? It is not compulsory for any British citizen to ever hold a passport, and cancellation of a passport is irrelevant to nationality.

That's what I thought too. The Home Office or Border Agency or whoever is in charge of passports presumably could quite easily cancel their passports.

But they can't have their citizenship taken away.

I'm at a loss to understand what use cancelling passports would be.

Well it can't do any harm to try and restrict their movements should they try to. But identifying exactly who they are could be very difficult.

The 2014 Immigration Act allows those who acquired citizenship by registration or naturalisation to have it removed on the basis of certain conduct, so a full examination of this guy's past, if they ever work out who he is, would be needed. In any case it can only be done if the Home Sec believes that the person can then become a national of another country. Not sure if that has all been enacted yet but it will be soon, I think.

Cancelling a passport would restrict travel as the cancellation would come up at an airport immigration scan, and so entry to wherever, if being done properly, could be denied, and potentially the person could be arrested. Alternatively we have a load of British terrorists wandering round airside like Tom Hanks

It is in force, but the point is (and most likely the psychopath was chosen for the job for the same reason) about British-born jihadists.



Not following this; if we know who he is then he could be detained by ANY border agency which detected a flag against his name, what would cancelling his passport add? It might even make it worse, as surely if the flag said "suspected psychopath terrorist" then the relevant border agency might act in one way, whereas if all they thought they were dealing with is some guy with a cancelled passport, they might not be ready with appropriate security.
The discussion on this started with the suggestion from Dita's that:

If the chap was identified and landed at Gatwick I should imagine we'd be rather keen to keep hold of him rather than send him back anywhere. The status of his passport would be the least of his troubles. But again, there is confusion here. If a British national arrives at the border incoming, he could not be refused entry. You only need a passport to enter other countries. Having had your valid British passport cancelled whilst abroad simply is not a reason to deny a person entry. If he is British then he is our problem.