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| I thought it was going to pay out like this:
Prologue
The game's backstory begins during the early 21st century, with tensions between North Korea and global powers running high due to North Korea's military aggression, including its successful testing of nuclear weapons (coincidently taking place in 2013 within the game's timeline, the same year in which a real nuclear test was enacted by North Korea) and the sinking of a South Korean ship.
In 2013, one year after the death of North Korean Supreme Leader Kim Jong-il (which, incidentally, came in December 2011, several months after the game's release), his son and successor, Kim Jong-un, reunites North and South Korea to form the Greater Korean Republic (GKR), a technological and economic global power. By 2015, a war between Iran and Saudi Arabia, both now nuclear-armed states, has devastated the global oil supply, causing prices to skyrocket. This precipitates extreme economic turmoil and massive social unrest in the U.S. Subsequently, in 2017, the U.S. military recalls much of its overseas presence, particularly in the Pacific. A year later, Japan, significantly weakened due to the diminishment of the US defence treaty for Japan is easily conquered by the GKR and joins the Greater Korean Republic.
In 2022, conditions in the U.S. worsen with the collapse of the financial system and an Asian bird flu epidemic that claims 6 million lives, forcing the Mexican Government to close its northern borders leading into the USA as fear of the Avian flu epidemic continues throughout North America. By 2024, Korea's annexation has continued throughout Southeast Asia, including its emerging economic powers, giving the GKR an empire reminiscent of Imperial Japan. A year later, the Korean superstate launches a supposed GPS satellite that is actually an orbital weapon. It detonates a high-altitude nuclear device over the U.S., creating an EMP burst that wipes out much of the nation's electrical infrastructure. In the ensuing chaos, the KPA launches an amphibious invasion that seizes control of Hawaii and much of the U.S. Pacific Coast. KPA paratroopers are deployed over the Midwest and, with the U.S. military severely crippled and scattered, launch the final offensive to take control of the remaining states. The U.S. military, however, was able to counterattack, leaving the Eastern States free, and effectively dividing the nation at the irradiated Mississippi River, with the Western states under GKR occupation.
Which is the plot to the home Homefront, bit creepy the number of similarities.
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Thank fook Camoron has decided we must replace Trident.
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| Personally I can see China doing everyone a favour and sorting out NK, militarily if necessary. The West will publicly codemn the Chinese while privately thanking them.
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| #northkoreanfootballchants
Twitter search. Do it
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| Cameron saying that DPRK missiles could reach the UK. Methinks this is about as credible as Iraq having weapons ready in 45 minutes.
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| Quote ="John_D"Cameron saying that DPRK missiles could reach the UK. Methinks this is about as credible as Iraq having weapons ready in 45 minutes.'"
It's reminiscent, isn't it – particularly when most experts/commentators have made it clear that it is very doubtful that North Korea has that capacity.
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| Cameron is the only person to make the claim. He's making a fool of himself.
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| Quote ="John_D"Cameron saying that DPRK missiles could reach the UK. Methinks this is about as credible as Iraq having weapons ready in 45 minutes.'"
It's far, far, far less credible. That was at least possible, even if conflated with other capabilities. As said by vbfg, Cameron is making a fool of himself.
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| Quote ="dr_feelgood"Personally I can see China doing everyone a favour and sorting out NK, militarily if necessary. The West will publicly codemn the Chinese while privately thanking them.'"
I can't imagine that ever happening. If anything the Chinese will standby and publicly condemn the US for sorting out NK.
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| Quote ="John_D"Cameron saying that DPRK missiles could reach the UK. Methinks this is about as credible as Iraq having weapons ready in 45 minutes.'"
David Cameron, fighting lunacy with idiocy since 2010
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| Quote ="John_D"Cameron saying that DPRK missiles could reach the UK. Methinks this is about as credible as Iraq having weapons ready in 45 minutes.'"
That man is a complete fool.
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| Quote ="vbfg"Never going to happen.
I would bet any money that right now China is moving troops to their border with DPRK. They have a mutual defence pact with them, but the China that signed that treaty is a completely different thing to the China of today. If they're doing that at all they're doing it to:
1) A show of force to deter a first strike against DPRK.
2) A force to deal with any refugees
3) A force to deal with any contingencies
This is not going to be a second Korean War. China was playing a short game then, which was to prevent the US establishing bases on its border. China is playing a long game now, and sanctioning a war against its major economic partners isn't going to put it in any kind of position to do that. They are getting rich from that long game. Their cities are now populated by a burgeoning middle class who will lose everything when China's trade with the rest of the world falls through the floor. There are entire generations who know only double digit growth year on year. Those are the seeds of major civil unrest, and they are not going to go down that road.
All of this is under threat because of a yapping little dog that it was useful to keep in the back yard when Mao was consolidating power. It's a yapping little dog that produces billions in counterfeit Chinese currency and undermines its economy. It's a yapping little dog that has broken free of its leash but which the world continues to see as being fed raw meat by China. The only benefit of its continued existence to China is the prevention of foreign bases on its most important border. It very definitely does not want a proliferation of nuclear targets that close. Not when the actions of others determine whether the nukes are going to fly or not.
Make no mistake, China would like to stop that thing from snapping at its ankles just as much as everyone else would. An attack of any significance by DPRK against any of Japan, ROK or the US in this climate means DPRK gets whacked. If something like [url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bombardment_of_Yeonpyeongthis[/url happens in the current climate the DPRK gets whacked. If the DPRK gets whacked then the RoK is now the whole Korean peninsula. China cannot prevent this without getting involved, and they cannot get involved without trashing everything they've been working towards since Nixon visited a little over forty years ago and everything they planned their entire economy and mode of living around working towards for the next forty years.
What China wants is a DKRP that can be brought to heel. [url=https://maps.google.co.uk/maps?q=north+korea&hl=en&ll=39.53794,123.640137&spn=13.933225,19.753418&client=ubuntu&channel=cs&hnear=North+Korea&gl=uk&t=m&z=6Look at this map[/url. Look at what's 200 miles directly west of the border. See why it's the most important border?
China is not going to fsck around with this. This is 2013. It's not 1950.'"
I'll be flying to Shanghai on Sunday to start hiring people out there to work for the American company that employs me. Everything you said rings true. It's a different time. China will look after it's border, but to suggest that these few loons in Pyonyang mean more than the economic future of nearly 2 billion Chinese would be rather silly. You are correct - China has a long term plan, they have at the very least the next 10 years mapped out in great detail and a war involving the whole of Korea being turned into an irradiated wasteland probabaly isn't in it.
As far as I know China has been in talks with the US already.
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First his chancellor tries to blame housing benefits for the murder of 6 children and now this.
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| [url=http://www.lrb.co.uk/v35/n09/richard-lloydparry/advantage-pyongyangVery interesting piece from the [iLondon Review of Books[/i[/url.
A lengthy read.
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