Pity then the likes of Tesco don't feel the same way about [url=http://www.guardian.co.uk/business/2010/apr/13/tesco-revives-jersey-vat-avoidanceavoiding UK VAT[/url or even [url=http://www.taxresearch.org.uk/Blog/2008/06/01/tescos-the-zug-deal-is-tax-avoidance/avoiding corporation tax[/url

Every little helps eh?

Why have I now suddenly got this vision of you in a previous life, strutting around your sugar or tobacco plantation, gazing fondly over your flock of mulattoes?

"Long-haired activists"?
What age are you living in?
You'll be calling them tree-huggers next.

Anyway, no-one is saying that people shouldn't be trained to do their job ... just don't call it "apprenticeships" whilst touting the figures to show how magnificently you are fine-honing the skills of the workforce.
Some of these so-called apprenticeships (most of them?) last mere weeks.


I hear motherhood and apple pie are quite nice too.

[url=http://thevoluptuousmanifesto.blogspot.com/2011/03/meaty-advice-thats-tough-to-chew.htmlHelping big business surreptitiously is hardly new for this government[/url.

I want a job but can't get one, I will now stand even less chance than before as a job I could possibly get will now be given to someone that they don't need to pay.
Do you not understand this premise?
Some people are screaming out for work that they can't find, These jobs are clearly there or Tesco wouldn't be able to find work for these free jobs so why not employ folks who want to work for a proper wage?
Because they are greedy so-and-so's is why and the Government are bloody stupid or corrupt you decide.

Anakin Skywalker's from this "real world" that keeps being spoken of, doesn't sound too great to me.

You can add my vote to the 'corrupt' column.

You can be both corrupt and bloody stupid. Just saying …

Who mentioned the Maxwell brothers...?

Ah, Robert Maxwell - one fat Czech that didn't bounce.

Seems there have been lots of jobs avaiable - its just the attitude of native people that stinks: www.express.co.uk/posts/view/284 ... bs-a-month

Seems there have been lots of jobs avaiable - its just the attitude of native people that stinks: www.express.co.uk/posts/view/284 ... bs-a-month

Quote ="Dally"Seems there have been lots of jobs avaiable - its just the attitude of native people that stinks: www.express.co.uk/posts/view/284 ... bs-a-month'" Figures for the three months to September - a time of year that traditionally sees an influx of temporary migrant labour, particularly in the agricultural sector - quoted in isolation to make a political, xenophobic point by the Express. Quelle surprise.

Quote ="Dally"Seems there have been lots of jobs avaiable - its just the attitude of native people that stinks: www.express.co.uk/posts/view/284 ... bs-a-month'" Figures for the three months to September - a time of year that traditionally sees an influx of temporary migrant labour, particularly in the agricultural sector - quoted in isolation to make a political, xenophobic point by the Express. Quelle surprise.

Why is there a temporary influx this year when we have all these fit young people really keen on getting a job - "any job"?

Why do you discount facts that don't suit your slanted views?

No, but given the circumstances of his demise, how apt that he was named "Bob"

Because it is easier for the agriculture sector to attract immigrant labour for a short season that it is to recruit from the UK, the whole ballache of signing on and off and the length of time it takes to sort stuff like housing benefits at the end of the season do not make these short term roles attractive to UK residents. This is one area the Universal Benefit should help with, I can't see it though, people signing on and off are harder to manage that those signing on all the time.

Not unlike Natalie Wood...

The name that gets chucked about in the activist world for companies that send the unemployed to work for free at big corporations is poverty pimps. The companies that are paid to pimp out the unemployed that I’m aware of are Remploy (seeing them again in a couple of weeks), a4e, Best LTD, Mencap, Scope, Ingeus and Crosby training. There’s probably many more but let’s focus on Mencap who I had a recent experience with.

Mencap pride themselves on helping the disabled like myself by placing donation buckets in Co-Ops up and down the country. However these donations don’t go to help the disabled. They go to help the employees who work for the charity so they can continue to get paid to pimp out the unemployed to Co-Op. I recently found out it’s a win/win situation for both Co-Op and Mencap last June when I declined a ten week placement at Co-Op. The answer was they can easily replace me with someone else who’d take the placement instead. How’s that helping me get back into work?

I’ve had previous with working for free at a supermarket at ASDA via Remploy so I know how these things go. The problem these days is that most charity’s (not all) exploit the cause they supposed to be helping. The only way employees at Mencap are going to stay in the job is by placing donation buckets in supermarkets whilst highlighting the few success stories to mislead the general public what they all about. The people they’ve failed like myself don’t have the resources nor the platforms to expose them for the scumbags that they really are. Thankfully the Guardian does.

The money that Mencap gets donated would be better spent on creating sustainable and real jobs for the disabled rather than using it to maintain their current failure of ‘help’ which is no help at all other than to the employees at the so called charity and Co-Op.

Really? You should have mentioned it!

When I first got in touch with Mencap the bloke who came to see me choose to ignore what I had to say about my experience with Remploy. From there It took him four/five months to arrange a placement at Co-Op. But the biggest pain of all was dragging me to the other side of town to the Mencap offices just to ask me if I wanted to look on the job centre plus website which I could have done at home.

Because it's not unrelated: [url=http://www.guardian.co.uk/business/2011/nov/16/why-britain-doesnt-make-things-manufacturingWhy doesn't Britain make things any more?[/url

Quote ="Matt01"It would appear that working for some of these companies is charity to the company. When tesco are making £3.5 billion profit surely they can afford to take someone at minimum wage on a trial rather than getting them to work for free.'" Indeed. www.dddmag.com/news-Pfizer-Profi ... 11111.aspx And 2500 people lose their jobs at one site alone in Sandwich.

Quote ="Matt01"It would appear that working for some of these companies is charity to the company. When tesco are making £3.5 billion profit surely they can afford to take someone at minimum wage on a trial rather than getting them to work for free.'" Indeed. www.dddmag.com/news-Pfizer-Profi ... 11111.aspx And 2500 people lose their jobs at one site alone in Sandwich.

Quote ="Dally"Seems there have been lots of jobs avaiable - its just the attitude of native people that stinks: www.express.co.uk/posts/view/284 ... bs-a-month'" Funny then as I have sent out at a guess about 250 letters and C/V's and im still looking. Dont let that get in the way of your rant though! So yes we should all stop picking on the nice companies that are using free labour out of the goodness of their hearts!

Quote ="Dally"Seems there have been lots of jobs avaiable - its just the attitude of native people that stinks: www.express.co.uk/posts/view/284 ... bs-a-month'" Funny then as I have sent out at a guess about 250 letters and C/V's and im still looking. Dont let that get in the way of your rant though! So yes we should all stop picking on the nice companies that are using free labour out of the goodness of their hearts!

Depressing reading. I'm old enough to have been aware of all this as it was happening and to remember the days when we we still had a manufacturing industry worthy of the name.

By Christ we really have had a succession of fekwits in charge of this country over the last several decades.

I always like the story about the reporter who contacted Cap'n Bob's PA to enquire if there was any substance to the rumour that he'd topped himself. Her reply was: "I very much doubt that, I spoke to him earlier in the evening and he was feeling particularly bouyant"

Well we still make c**p newspapers.

But what then is the solution to this lack of manufacturing industry? Serious question. It's easy to moan but as the article says, if we can't compete, how can we create so many manufactring jobs?

Quote ="DHM"Indeed. www.dddmag.com/news-Pfizer-Profi ... 11111.aspx And 2500 people lose their jobs at one site alone in Sandwich.'" 'But in the real world, these people must have been a waste of space and it's far better for the the employer to sack them and make more money and it's only loony lefties who don't live in the real world who don't understand this.' © Sal Paradise

Quote ="DHM"Indeed. www.dddmag.com/news-Pfizer-Profi ... 11111.aspx And 2500 people lose their jobs at one site alone in Sandwich.'" 'But in the real world, these people must have been a waste of space and it's far better for the the employer to sack them and make more money and it's only loony lefties who don't live in the real world who don't understand this.' © Sal Paradise