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| Quote ="PCollinson1990"Am sure the smiley was a typo/autocorrect. Broad Street, Canal Street Manchester are targets, but Westminster is a target that was used to make us all afraid'"
Well I'm not afraid.
Balls to ISIS and their ilk.
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| Quote ="headhunter"... it is a little disingenuous to say he was 'attacking Parliament' when he was attacking complete strangers outside.'"
It might be, if your personal definition of "disingenuous" is not the one we get in dictionaries, but something else you just made up.
You don't have to agonise over detailed analysis of everything he did, though. Just the bit where he entered the grounds of Parliament and knifed to death a policeman trying to stop him getting into the building. That bit. And had to be shot to halt his determined attempt. It is reasonably fair to say he was making a direct attack on Parliament when he was, er, making a direct attack on Parliament.
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| Quote ="Bullseye"Well I'm not afraid.
Balls to ISIS and their ilk.'"
I agree 100%, the f's can come try and get me if they want, I'll stand up for our values and country
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| Quote ="Ferocious Aardvark"It might be, if your personal definition of "disingenuous" is not the one we get in dictionaries, but something else you just made up.
You don't have to agonise over detailed analysis of everything he did, though. Just the bit where he entered the grounds of Parliament and knifed to death a policeman trying to stop him getting into the building. That bit. And had to be shot to halt his determined attempt. It is reasonably fair to say he was making a direct attack on Parliament when he was, er, making a direct attack on Parliament.'" I have not heard any reports that he was trying to gain entry to the building, just that he stabbed a police officer on the grounds. In fact from the diagram that I've seen it looks like he was some distance from the Palace of Westminster when he was shot. Maybe he did want to eventually gain entry, I'm sure he did, but the fact that it didn't happen means that it's, erm, something that you just made up.
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| Quote ="PCollinson1990"I agree 100%, the f's can come try and get me if they want, I'll stand up for our values and country'"
The best they can come up with is a Lone Ranger that mowed people down in a car before being taken out pretty quickly by the cops.
It's not 9/11. The next day Londoners went back to work as normal.
Farage and that Hopkins thing and the rest immediately talk the country down and make out we are losing the war. It's all down to immigration and if we don't get these foreign types booted out we'll all die.
Sorry but if weds is the best that the extremists can come up with and is all the far right have to attach themselves to...
In answer to your original question yes I think the liberals probably are quite happy.
Well done to our intelligence services that (despite that moron Trump's comments) are a credit to this country. It's almost impossible to stop every loner that wants to attach themselves to a cause (whatever that be).
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| Called in the chippy last night and they had a copy of the Daily Mail , with the headline , Mail investigators discover ' how to use vehicle as a terrorist weapon manual ' on the Internet
So I wonder what this ' manual ' actually tells the potential murderer ?
Part 1 , start engine
Part 2 , aim car at innocent people
Part 3 , press acellerator
Obviously the work of a genius
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No doubt this will be used as an excuse to get the snoopers charter back on the agenda. This a horrible event, but we've been through worse and I dare say there're far more important issues facing this country than 'terrorism'.
I don't like Simon Jenkins, but I believe he's spot on here: https://youtu.be/tqs4h4xVRoY
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No doubt this will be used as an excuse to get the snoopers charter back on the agenda. This a horrible event, but we've been through worse and I dare say there're far more important issues facing this country than 'terrorism'.
I don't like Simon Jenkins, but I believe he's spot on here: https://youtu.be/tqs4h4xVRoY
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| Quote ="PCollinson1990"............I'll stand up for our values and country'"
Ooooh goody and what are they?
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| Quote ="Leaguefan"Ooooh goody and what are they?'"
Democracy, Equality, Free Speech, but I guess you don't hold those values?
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| Quote ="PCollinson1990"Democracy, Equality, Free Speech, but I guess you don't hold those values?'"
And what are you doing to stand up for those values, whilst us lefties do our best to erode them...?
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| Quote ="wrencat1873"It mowed people down on Westminster Bridge.
If Parliament was his target, why would you do that ?
Btw, I am in no way condoning the "terrorist" that carried out the attack, just questioning that this was a direct attack on Parliament.'"
Breivik set off a bomb in Oslo to distract the coppers etc before heading to Utoya. Good distraction technique, same as Elms causing mayhem nearby to get people heading there - you'll have seen the video of the armed coppers running back to the Parliament gates from the car crash site round the corner...
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| Quote ="Chris28"Breivik set off a bomb in Oslo to distract the coppers etc before heading to Utoya. Good distraction technique, same as Elms causing mayhem nearby to get people heading there - you'll have seen the video of the armed coppers running back to the Parliament gates from the car crash site round the corner...'"
You may be right but, to mow people down on the road leading to your "target" is somewhat drawing attention to yourself, isn't it.
A distraction would have been to target somewhere completely different and then while there was a commotion in that place, go off and do what you intended in the first place ie, not draw attention to yourself, until you had done what you wanted.
As Mr Ardvark said, personally, i'm incapable of thinking it through so, my opinion is utterly invalid.
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| Quote ="PCollinson1990"Democracy, Equality, Free Speech, but I guess you don't hold those values?'"
When are they going to become part of "our values"?
We have an unelected head of state, a system where a minority can create a government.
Equality? in what, education, wages, because of colour, sex or releigion?
Free speech? Why do slander and libel laws exist added to that the wail and depressicon_wink.gif
I fight in my own way to make sure they may come about, but they don't exist at the moment the way people believe they do because they are told it so.
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| Quote We have an unelected head of state, a system where a minority can create a government.'"
Your seeming to suggest that we are like the yanks in that we vote for an individual. The Cons have the majority and form the Government. We didn't vote Cameron in nor May.
A system where the SNP get stacks less votes than UKIP but have many seats and are now trying to split the union.
When you say minority what is it you actually mean?
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| Quote ="Leaguefan"When are they going to become part of "our values"?
We have an unelected head of state, a system where a minority can create a government.
Equality? in what, education, wages, because of colour, sex or releigion?
Free speech? Why do slander and libel laws exist added to that the wail and depressicon_wink.gif
I fight in my own way to make sure they may come about, but they don't exist at the moment the way people believe they do because they are told it so.'"
I've got some spare tinfoil if you need a new hat...I believe what I KNOW
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| Could anyone tell me how many innocent people have been murdered in the Middle East the past fortnight by the uk? I've heard between 50 and 400? What about Yemen? Another couple of thousand? Before the EDF and daily mail supporters on here pipe up, i.e. Dally.Who do you think supplies the Saudis with their bombs and bullets? How does Therasa May keep a straight face in parliament when she denounces terroism and then goes and kills a load of innocent Iraqis?
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| Quote ="Lebron James"Could anyone tell me how many innocent people have been murdered in the Middle East the past fortnight by the uk? I've heard between 50 and 400? What about Yemen? Another couple of thousand? Before the EDF and daily mail supporters on here pipe up, i.e. Dally.Who do you think supplies the Saudis with their bombs and bullets? How does Therasa May keep a straight face in parliament when she denounces terroism and then goes and kills a load of innocent Iraqis?
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We've been murdering innocents for centuries, claiming foreign lands, usually in the name of "Christianity", we sell arms to anyone who'll buy them, it's time we just went the Swiss way, look after ourselves and let everyone else fight between themselves
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| INOUT Quote ="Lebron James"Could anyone tell me how many innocent people have been murdered in the Middle East the past fortnight by the uk? I've heard between 50 and 400? What about Yemen? Another couple of thousand? Before the EDF and daily mail supporters on here pipe up, i.e. Dally.Who do you think supplies the Saudis with their bombs and bullets? How does Therasa May keep a straight face in parliament when she denounces terroism and then goes and kills a load of innocent Iraqis?
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These bombs and bullets ? , I assume nobody else in the world makes them ? , so it was the Koreans murdering those unfortunates on Westminster bridge was it ?
Idiot
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| Quote ="PCollinson1990"I've got some spare tinfoil if you need a new hat...I believe what I KNOW'"
That much is obvious
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| Quote ="Leaguefan"That much is obvious
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This is no longer worth my time, in the short time I've posted all I see are outdated bullies.
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| Bye then (again).
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| Quote ="Bullseye"Bye then (again).'"
It's a shame how the Sun Bin has fallen so far
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| Quote ="PCollinson1990"It's a shame how the Sun Bin has fallen so far'"
Turrah standee
Bye bye.......
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| Now the Swedes feel the pain
No doubt another loser with a criminal past.
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| The media to-do about the Westminster attack seemed massively out of proportion to the event itself. Horrible act and terrible that people were killed and injured, but this was sadly a very minor event on the scale of terror attacks.
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