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| Quote ="IR80"where are these downtrodden masses?'"
Currently queuing up at the growing number of food banks
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| Quote ="wrencat1873"Currently queuing up at the growing number of food banks
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here you go with emoticons again, trying to appear clever.
Food Banks are growing because they are an easy, lazy way. Employment is at a RECORD HIGH.
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| Quote ="wrencat1873"Currently queuing up at the growing number of food banks
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Sure the use of food banks is tiny in this country but its a high profile notice point.
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| Quote ="bren2k"Sadly not - because she lost her seat; and unlike the Tories, Labour don't have the option of sidestepping the electorate by putting non-MP's into the HoL but retaining them in Cabinet positions. Question - given the way that Tory maths works - are there now 2 Nicky Morgan's?
I think Labour did indeed lose partly because of Corbyn - I haven't said otherwise; where I differ is that I don't think this election was won or lost on policy; it was largely based on spin and smear and personalities - and he suffered more of that than even Michael Foot. But the single biggest factor was Brexit - this was effectively a 2nd referendum, and Workington Man has clearly been persuaded that 'getting Brexit done' was more important than any other issue.'"
So Peter Mandelson was not given a peerage and back into cabinet - that after he was given a cushy EU job - or has that slipped you memory?
I come back to the point the Tories managed to retain a big chunk of remainers despite going with a leave manifesto - how was it that Labour couldn't retain the leavers?
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| Quote ="IR80"here you go with emoticons again, trying to appear clever.
Food Banks are growing because they are an easy, lazy way. Employment is at a RECORD HIGH.'"
Employment is at a "record high" but, the ecconomy is flat lining, can you explain why that may be ?
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| Quote ="wrencat1873"Employment is at a "record high" but, the ecconomy is flat lining, can you explain why that may be ?'"
where is the economy flat lining, it seems pretty buoyant to me, not growing as fast as it was, but still growing. Can you explain how it would have been so much better under Comrade Corbyn?
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| Quote ="Sal Paradise"Sure the use of food banks is tiny in this country but its a high profile notice point.'"
Damn right it's high profile.
Food banks shouldn't be neccessary in a civilised society, in one of the wealthiest countries on the planet.
I realise that some of the issues are complex but, one of the main factors in their increase is the disastrous roll out of Universal Credit, leaving people with nothing, having to wait 6 weeks for any kind of payment - who the hell thought on up ??
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| Quote ="Sal Paradise"Labour's problem is they preach about being the party of the working class yet none of the people running the party come from the working class.'"
Just wait until the working class realise Johnson and Co. weren't dragged up in council houses, and didn't attend state comprehensives. Can you imagine their shock?
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| Quote ="Sal Paradise"So Peter Mandelson was not given a peerage and back into cabinet - that after he was given a cushy EU job - or has that slipped you memory?'"
Nope - so was Andrew Adonis, and it was wrong then too.
You really do rely very heavily on the tactic of whataboutery - it's an entirely reductive way to conduct an argument.
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| Quote ="IR80"where is the economy flat lining, it seems pretty buoyant to me, not growing as fast as it was, but still growing. Can you explain how it would have been so much better under Comrade Corbyn?'"
The ecconomy grew by 0.3% in Q3 nd contracted 0.2% in Q2 of 2019, therefore overall growth in the UK ecconomy, over the last 6 months is a MIGHTY 0.1% - Is that Buoyant ?
Taking account of inflation, consumption is down and we are actually in reverse.
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| Quote ="wrencat1873"The ecconomy grew by 0.3% in Q3 nd contracted 0.2% in Q2 of 2019, therefore overall growth in the UK ecconomy, over the last 6 months is a MIGHTY 0.1% - Is that Buoyant ?
Taking account of inflation, consumption is down and we are actually in reverse.'"
any growth os good, certainly better than the recession caused by Labour.
Let's be homest, we're never going to agree, other than that Boris was the best of two pretty awful options. Brexit won the GE, people voted to get their voice heard again, it is how democracy works. (I voted remain in the referendum, remember)
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| Quote ="IR80"certainly better than the recession caused by Labour.'"
I didn't realise the UK government's influence stretched across the globe.
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| Quote ="Khlav Kalash"I didn't realise the UK government's influence stretched across the globe.'"
and I never realised there were so many sad posters named atfer Simpsons characters.
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| Quote ="IR80"and I never realised there were so many sad posters named atfer Simpsons characters.'"
Keep deflecting. Anyhow snowflake, about Clare Balding?
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| Quote ="Khlav Kalash"Keep deflecting. Anyhow snowflake, about Clare Balding?'"
Sad and a little pathetic. "Snowflake", hilarious.
As for Ms Balding, different thread, different topic.
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| Quote ="IR80"any growth os good, certainly better than the recession caused by Labour.
Let's be homest, we're never going to agree, other than that Boris was the best of two pretty awful options. Brexit won the GE, people voted to get their voice heard again, it is how democracy works. (I voted remain in the referendum, remember)'"
Just as an aside, how do you equate voting remain with voting for Johnson?
This isn't a dig by the way.
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| Quote ="IR80"Sad and a little pathetic. "Snowflake", hilarious.
As for Ms Balding, different thread, different topic.
Crack on Sidewhow'"
Still deflecting. How did Labour cause the global financial crisis?
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| Quote ="Ovavoo"Just as an aside, how do you equate voting remain with voting for Johnson?
This isn't a dig by the way.'"
I voted remain in 2016, the country voted leave - I went with the democratic choice in 2019, whether I agree or not it’s what the country wanted
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| Quote ="IR80"Sad and a little pathetic. "Snowflake", hilarious.
As for Ms Balding, different thread, different topic.
Crack on Sidewhow'"
Balding....BBC...part of the establishment elite which now dominates rugby league!
The RFL should have appointed Dominic Cummings.
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| I see the Sun is already writing negative reports on all the possible new Labour leaders. I would like to say I am surprised but I am not they are just perpetuating their usual rubbish. I note they have made no mention of the far right group asking it’s members to join the Conservative party to ensure Johnson remains in power. The same group is also showing their conservative membership cards. They believe Johnson and the Conservatives now represent their views.
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| Johnson the fat cowardly dog, along side toad face Faragre and fish smelling Cummings keep a low profile? How much of a fool and idiot do you have to be to even think these sad, sick terwats are worth voting for?
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| [url[/url Quote ="Ovavoo"Johnson the fat cowardly dog, along side toad face Faragre and fish smelling Cummings keep a low profile? How much of a fool and idiot do you have to be to even think these sad, sick terwats are worth voting for?'"
I would hazard a guess that the individuals concerned in voting did so on merit, and not historical envy.
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| Quote ="IR80"[url[/urlI would hazard a guess that the individuals concerned in voting did so on merit, and not historical envy.'"
Wait until Johnson and his apprentice s start going back on their word, and the diddly dong fishing muppets of Grimsby realise just how important they are compared to The City's financial services.
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| Quote ="IR80"[url[/urlI would hazard a guess that the individuals concerned in voting did so on merit, and not historical envy.'"
More like swallowed Lyin Boris’s lies
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