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| Quote ="Big Graeme"Same old Tories, if you don't vote for them they couldn't give a stuff.'"
My present potted theory is that, in 2013, they really don't actually care whether people vote for them or not, they must know with certainty that they have zero chance of being re-elected yet are doing nothing about it. Instead they seem to be hell-bent on offering protection, advantages and doing cosy deals with big business, carry on as usual with banks, line the pockets of the big insurers, crack on with more crazy PFI schems and "outsourcing", hell they even talk about privatising the courts and the borders etc. Maybe some of them will do rather well out of it with non-exec directorships etc in the near future. Maybe some already have.
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| Quote ="Mintball"icon_lol.gif
T'Other Half spotted a review there once for a cafe/restaurant that we regularly use in Paris (it's superb for people watching).
It was written by a man who had been to the upstairs restaurant with his wife and child. The child, he acknowledged in this 'review', had been standing on chairs etc, but having done nothing himself, he was appalled that one of the staff was quite "rude" about it.
Talk about a lack of self-awareness.'"
Trip Advisor is the bain of every hotelier and restauranteur in the country and yet can make or break their business.
To use the hotel of my inside knowledge they now have pro-active management who reply to most guest comments and the most oft-used phrase is on the lines of "I wish you had mentioned this while you were staying with us", or a more polite version of that - time and again they ask every guest at check out if they have enjoyed their stay and most of them state how much they have enjoyed it, only to then moan like hell when they get home and sit in front of their computer.
This particular hotel has recently appointed a new chef and apparently he is superb and is getting the reviews to match, just looking at some of the comments they've received this week on TA there is one that has marked the hotel down two stars for the simple reason that they didn't have baked beans for breakfast, they then go on to say how they loved the rest of their stay but not having baked beans for breakfast was a two star deal breaker - f'kin idiots
The best I saw though was a couple who complained that the reception staff had been rude and insolent at check out when this couple had tried to make a complaint about their room, unfortunately for them the hotel manager happened to be observing his reception at the time as part of their training duties and his comment on TA to them is priceless, basically the couple were lying through their teeth, hadn't complained at all and had received perfectly courteous service at checkout - in all seriousness the hotels now recognise that there is an element of statutory complaint in order to get a reduction on bills and/or free or heavily discounted re-visits.
Why the fook would you accept a free stay at a hotel you've just slagged off (but they do)
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| Quote ="Ferocious Aardvark"My present potted theory is that, in 2013, they really don't actually care whether people vote for them or not, they must know with certainty that they have zero chance of being re-elected yet are doing nothing about it. Instead they seem to be hell-bent on offering protection, advantages and doing cosy deals with big business, carry on as usual with banks, line the pockets of the big insurers, crack on with more crazy PFI schems and "outsourcing", hell they even talk about privatising the courts and the borders etc. Maybe some of them will do rather well out of it with non-exec directorships etc in the near future. Maybe some already have.'"
As I mentioned the other day, 206 of 'our' Parliamentarians have recent or current private financial interests in private healthcare. They got to vote on privatising the NHS.
And that's just one subject.
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| Quote ="JerryChicken"... Why the fook would you accept a free stay at a hotel you've just slagged off
(but they do)'"
They probably aren't overly fond of bloggers either, but I do attempt to post from a properly critical perspective.
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| Quote ="Mintball"They probably aren't overly fond of bloggers either, but I do attempt to post from a properly critical perspective.
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No, its a well recognised and very commonly used blag at check-out now, to complain bitterly about some random and inconsequential (and sometimes invented) problem, then when offered a future free nights stay they grab it with both hands and walk out with a big grin.
There have been some customers noted who have then repeated the tactic on their return visit too in order to blag another free stay, its not usually offered a second time around
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| Thing is with TripAdvisor, you can see straight through the stupid-trivial-complaint-blown-up-into-a-major-incident-stuff and the over-the-top-friend-of-the-owner doing-a-favour stuff.
You get to able to judge from it anyway.
If a place gets nothing but complaints, there's got to be a reason.
If an American liked the service and says so on TripAdvisor, wow, it's got to be top-notch.
As my work has taken me all over the place over the years and as my indulgences have also been travel and eating-out, I have contributed to TripAdvisor (fairly, I like to think) about hotels and restaurants, usually on either end of the satisfaction scale ... I mean what's the point posting about Pizza Express for example, doesn't everyone already know it's acceptably bland but out-competed by Zizzi?
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| I once started a TA review of a Travel Lodge in Birmingham with "I must have stayed at a different place to everyone who has already reviewed this place" because I found it perfectly acceptable in line with the Travel Lodge business model.
All of the reviews that preceded mine were having a right old go at it and rating it one star, in a perverse way I was looking forward to staying there just to see how bad it was, but it was fine, as a Travel Lodge it was exactly what it said on the tin.
Strange enough, every review that followed mine then said "Yeah I thought it was ok too..."
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| Quote ="Mintball"It was outlawed – [url=http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/7533863.stmbecame law in 2009[/url.'"
I'm surprised this lot haven't repealed that one already.They could always throw in the staff meals as remuneration too, so if they take a meal during their duty, the restaurant could dock them the £60 or so it would usually charge a punter
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| Quote ="JerryChicken"I once started a TA review of a Travel Lodge in Birmingham with "I must have stayed at a different place to everyone who has already reviewed this place" because I found it perfectly acceptable in line with the Travel Lodge business model.
All of the reviews that preceded mine were having a right old go at it and rating it one star, in a perverse way I was looking forward to staying there just to see how bad it was, but it was fine, as a Travel Lodge it was exactly what it said on the tin..."'"
I've done similar ... and also the opposite, for places that preceding reviewers seemed to have thought that, because it was sy and they paid a lot, it must have been excellent.
If I pay a lot, I expect highly.
If I pay a little, I expect accordingly.
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| Quote ="Mintball"It was outlawed – [url=http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/7533863.stmbecame law in 2009[/url.'"
Missed this reply, sorry, thanks for that.
That's good then, as far as it goes.
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| On topic (ish), I see HMRC have headhunted their new Chief Information Officer.
From Vodafone.
Presumably, "if you can't beat 'em employ 'em" is the new motto.
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| Quote ="Andy Gilder"On topic (ish), I see HMRC have headhunted their new Chief Information Officer.
From Vodafone.
Presumably, "if you can't beat 'em employ 'em" is the new motto.'"
Revolving doors, Andy, revolving doors.
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| Quote ="El Barbudo"Unless I misunderstand it, the effect of pooling tips is that the staff providing the best service are subsidising the tips for those who are not the best.
Is that not the opposite of what tipping is supposed to be for?
Better by far to pay a proper wage and stop treating staff like servants.'"
Although I do it, tipping is ludicrous given we now have a MNW and that is the mode wage rate nationally. Why do staff in pubs / hotels / restaurants (or often the business owners) expect tipping from people earning NMW?
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| Quote ="Mintball"I have tweeted at the hotel about this, but they've not responded, so I assume that as an acknowledgement that this is what happens.
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Wouldn't it be better to write more formally if you wish for a reply?
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| Quote ="Dally"Wouldn't it be better to write more formally if you wish for a reply?'"
I mentioned it in a blog post and tweeted them the link, asking for a comment.
It's the modern way to do things. I have had comments back after doing that.
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| Quote ="Dally"Although I do it, tipping is ludicrous given we now have a MNW and that is the mode wage rate nationally. Why do staff in pubs / hotels / restaurants (or often the business owners) expect tipping from people earning NMW?'"
A Mational Ninimum Wage?
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| Quote ="Him"A Mational Ninimum Wage?'"
Mainly Notional Wage.
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| Quote ="Ferocious Aardvark"My present potted theory is that, in 2013, they really don't actually care whether people vote for them or not, they must know with certainty that they have zero chance of being re-elected yet are doing nothing about it.'"
Strange comment really as things are looking better for the Tories now than at any time since the last election.
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| Quote ="JerryChicken"No, its a well recognised and very commonly used blag at check-out now, to complain bitterly about some random and inconsequential (and sometimes invented) problem, then when offered a future free nights stay they grab it with both hands and walk out with a big grin.'"
Blame Premier Travel Inn or what ever handle they are using this month, they had a guarantee of a good night where absolutely anything could be brought up and used to claim against this guarantee, not enough towels? Claim a free nigh, room too warm ? Claim a free night, what happened to ask at the front desk for more towels and turning the heating down.
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| Quote ="Ajw71"Strange comment really as things are looking better for the Tories now than at any time since the last election.'"
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| Quote ="JerryChicken"I once started a TA review of a Travel Lodge in Birmingham with "I must have stayed at a different place to everyone who has already reviewed this place" because I found it perfectly acceptable in line with the Travel Lodge business model.
All of the reviews that preceded mine were having a right old go at it and rating it one star, in a perverse way I was looking forward to staying there just to see how bad it was, but it was fine, as a Travel Lodge it was exactly what it said on the tin.
Strange enough, every review that followed mine then said "Yeah I thought it was ok too..."'"
I never understand why people bitch and moan about TL's ... they serve a purpose, especially for short stays, usually at a very competitive price. If people want 4 or 5 star then pay for it but don't expect it with TL.
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| Quote ="Wanderer"I never understand why people bitch and moan about TL's ... they serve a purpose, especially for short stays, usually at a very competitive price. If people want 4 or 5 star then pay for it but don't expect it with TL.'"
Anyone bitching about Travel Lodge has obviously never stayed at a Formule 1
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| Quote ="Wanderer"I never understand why people bitch and moan about TL's ... they serve a purpose, especially for short stays, usually at a very competitive price. If people want 4 or 5 star then pay for it but don't expect it with TL.'"
Yup, if you plan nicely you can get a decent stay at good prices, the breakfast box is to be avoided but at the prices they charge you can't go wrong. Mind if I was staying more than the odd night I'd go for Innkeepers or Premier Inn.
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| Quote ="Big Graeme"Yup, if you plan nicely you can get a decent stay at good prices, the breakfast box is to be avoided but at the prices they charge you can't go wrong. Mind if I was staying more than the odd night I'd go for Innkeepers or Premier Inn.'"
Never tried the breakfast box, it doesn't look that appetising. Some TL's do have the buffet breakfast bars (Bolton and Meadowhall immediately spring to mind) and in keeping with the brand are reasonable enough.
I concur reference looking elsewhere for a little longer ... Premier is normally my next option.
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| Quote ="Big Graeme"Yup, if you plan nicely you can get a decent stay at good prices, the breakfast box is to be avoided but at the prices they charge you can't go wrong. Mind if I was staying more than the odd night I'd go for Innkeepers or Premier Inn.'"
Stayed at the Newcastle Airport (not really AT the airport) Innkeepers a few years ago - the buffet breakfast had no cooked option but it was the best breakfast buffet I have ever seen or eaten in ANY hotel - its now Premier Inn
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