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| In my view, anyone who "claps for carers" or gets all dewy-eyed when they talk about "our" NHS - but who also voted Tory - is a hypocrite of the highest order; it's important to remember I feel, that this is the same Tory party which has systematically and deliberately underfunded the NHS for 10 years - and broke out in cheers when they successfully blocked the lifting of the cap on nurses pay.
I expect most carers would rather you stayed indoors and gave that some thought, than stand on your doorstep banging on a saucepan in a demented attempt to assuage your guilty conscience.
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| Quote ="bren2k"In my view, anyone who "claps for carers" or gets all dewy-eyed when they talk about "our" NHS - but who also voted Tory - is a hypocrite of the highest order; it's important to remember I feel, that this is the same Tory party which has systematically and deliberately underfunded the NHS for 10 years - and broke out in cheers when they successfully blocked the lifting of the cap on nurses pay.
I expect most carers would rather you stayed indoors and gave that some thought, than stand on your doorstep banging on a saucepan in a demented attempt to assuage your guilty conscience.'"
Agreed, I actually turned the tv down last Thursday to see if the nutters were actually all out giving it big licks.
Wanderers toenail removal could tip me over th edge this coming week mind.
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| Quote ="bren2k"In my view, anyone who "claps for carers" or gets all dewy-eyed when they talk about "our" NHS - but who also voted Tory - is a hypocrite of the highest order; it's important to remember I feel, that this is the same Tory party which has systematically and deliberately underfunded the NHS for 10 years - and broke out in cheers when they successfully blocked the lifting of the cap on nurses pay.
I expect most carers would rather you stayed indoors and gave that some thought, than stand on your doorstep banging on a saucepan in a demented attempt to assuage your guilty conscience.'"
The NHS is but one factor in the whole mixed economy - those that voted Tory voted for what was included in their manifesto which did include higher spending on the NHS - so far the Tories couldn't have done much more in that respect in this parliament - what has happened in the past is irrelevant tbh.
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| Quote ="Wanderer"If I told you it was both big toes would that seal the deal
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Sorry mate, no can do.
I might set my stereo system on full tilt and blast out '[iOld Faithful[/i bang on the chimes of 8 mind.
Some lunatic down our street had '[iYou'll Never Walk Alone'[/i pelting out at full blast last week.
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| Quote ="Sal Paradise"The NHS is but one factor in the whole mixed economy - those that voted Tory voted for what was included in their manifesto which did include higher spending on the NHS - so far the Tories couldn't have done much more in that respect in this parliament - what has happened in the past is irrelevant tbh.'"
Absolute nonsense.
You are very quick to forgive any faults with Bojo and his cronies - i'm most definitely not.
We'll see his true colours when the dust starts to settle and the inevitable squeeze hit's all public finances.
We'll all no doubt be "in it together", with MP's still taking their index linked pay rises, while the rest of the public servants are once again squeezed and forgotten.
The double standards form your beloved party make me bloody sick and hypocrite is the perfect word to describe the Tories new found love for the NHS and it's staff.
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| Quote ="wrencat1873"Absolute nonsense.
You are very quick to forgive any faults with Bojo and his cronies - i'm most definitely not.
We'll see his true colours when the dust starts to settle and the inevitable squeeze hit's all public finances.
We'll all no doubt be "in it together", with MP's still taking their index linked pay rises, while the rest of the public servants are once again squeezed and forgotten.
The double standards form your beloved party make me bloody sick and hypocrite is the perfect word to describe the Tories new found love for the NHS and it's staff.'"
We must agree to differ - everybody said this was a Brexit election - Labour tried countless times to point out the Tories failings on the NHS - most people either didn't believe Corbyn - easily done - believed the Tories had made the best given what they inherited or Brexit so was so important that nothing else really mattered.
I am not forgiving Boris - he has only been leader for a few months, along with Brexit his major promise was increased spending on the NHS so to say he does care is harsh and doesn't stand up to scrutiny.
The Chancellor is already telling us what is going to happen - we will all pay more taxes - austerity isn't an option as you well know. Will the Tories spend like Labour would have done - not a chance but there is no way the spending promises on the NHS will not be honoured.
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| All is not lost.
Tweedle-Dee and Tweedle-dum have been on the dog & bone to each other.
Probably discussing nurses in uniform.........
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| Quote ="WIZEB"All is not lost.
Tweedle-Dee and Tweedle-dum have been on the dog & bone to each other.
Probably discussing nurses in uniform.........'"
Nothing wrong with keeping your friends and No1 global economy on side. If that means talking titties then so be it.
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| Quote ="wire-quin"Nothing wrong with keeping your friends and No1 global economy on side. If that means talking titties then so be it.'"
I thought her highness was also on that call? and I don't mean Victoria Beckham
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| Quote ="wire-quin"Nothing wrong with keeping your friends and No1 global economy on side. If that means talking [utitties[/u then so be it.'"
They undoubtedly make a decent pair.
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| Anyone know when Boris The Butcher will be next making an appearance or is going to hide forever?
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| Quote ="Lord Tony Smith"Anyone know when Boris The Butcher will be next making an appearance or is going to hide forever?'"
[iAll orders were now issued through Squealer or one of the other pigs. Napoleon himself was not seen in public as often as once in a fortnight.[/i
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Fiction becomes fact.
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| Quote ="Lord Tony Smith"Anyone know when Boris The Butcher will be next making an appearance or is going to hide forever?'"
I think it could be while - the numbers will have to start dropping significantly<500 before he appears
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| Quote ="King Street Cat"[iAll orders were now issued through Squealer or one of the other pigs. Napoleon himself was not seen in public as often as once in a fortnight.[/i
- George Orwell, Animal Farm
Fiction becomes fact.'"
“The party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command.”
-George Orwell, 1984
I wonder if he knew he was writing documentaries of the future?
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| Our science community is brilliant we are now going to cure the coronavirus as well as invent nuclear fusion. It's a blessing to be around in these glorious times.
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| Quote ="wire-quin"Nothing wrong with keeping your friends and No1 global economy on side. If that means talking titties then so be it.'"
Ey-up the armies turned up at today's press conference.
Straight back and get your boots polished w-q.
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| Quote ="Sal Paradise"I think it could be while - the numbers will have to start dropping significantly<500 before he appears'"
You mean that Boris is hiding away from scrutiny in the media OMG, who would have thought
A good time leader with no bottle
Wonder what he will do when the ecconomy eventually has to balance again.
I doubt he'll be anywhere near the steps of No 10, clapping on a Thursday evening then - despite owing his life to "those brave souls on the front line".
He's more likely to have his ministers queueing up outside the hospitals, taking the NHS staff's wage packets from them, the two faced get.
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| Is Chequers quite isolated?
If not it's only a matter of time before the neighbours call the police out to respond to the next carry on when the beluga kicks off again.
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| Quote ="wrencat1873"You mean that Boris is hiding away from scrutiny in the media OMG, who would have thought
A good time leader with no bottle
Wonder what he will do when the ecconomy eventually has to balance again.
I doubt he'll be anywhere near the steps of No 10, clapping on a Thursday evening then - despite owing his life to "those brave souls on the front line".
He's more likely to have his ministers queueing up outside the hospitals, taking the NHS staff's wage packets from them, the two faced get.'"
I don't disagree - but that is not unusual for a PM when the going get rough - Blair wasn't exactly forthcoming on Iraq now was he, Corbyn was hardly forthcoming on anti-Semitism now was he?
I would suspect he will be filmed clapping at Chequers - what he will do is what all good leaders do is devolve power to appropriate people in appropriate roles and support the decisions made on the way forward.
I don't understand this Boris has got it in for the NHS - nobody in the Tory ranks has been more understanding of the need for more money into the NHS than him. No way the NHS will not get the monies promised its electoral suicide.
Austerity wont happen - we will all pay more tax simple as
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| Quote ="Sal Paradise"
I don't understand this Boris has got it in for the NHS - nobody in the Tory ranks has been more understanding of the need for more money into the NHS than him. No way the NHS will not get the monies promised its electoral suicide.
Austerity wont happen - we will all pay more tax simple as'" The same man who voted against scrapping the 1% pay-rise cap for NHS nurses in 2017, and was a member of the government that cheered when a pay rise for nurses was blocked.
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| Quote ="Lord Tony Smith"The same man who voted against scrapping the 1% pay-rise cap for NHS nurses in 2017, and was a member of the government that cheered when a pay rise for nurses was blocked.'"
And the same man who callously risked lives by going out and shaking hands against his own Science Officer’s advice.
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| Quote ="Lord Tony Smith"The same man who voted against scrapping the 1% pay-rise cap for NHS nurses in 2017, and was a member of the government that cheered when a pay rise for nurses was blocked.'"
I think that is not quite as it was - they voted against an amendment put forward by Labour to remove the 1% across the whole public sector not just the NHS.
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| Quote ="Lord Tony Smith"The same man who voted against scrapping the 1% pay-rise cap for NHS nurses in 2017, and was a member of the government that cheered when a pay rise for nurses was blocked.'"
Time has moved on - he has seen things in a different light are people not allowed to change their mind/position?
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| Quote ="Sal Paradise"Time has moved on - he has seen things in a different light are people not allowed to change their mind/position?'"
Has he? Do you have evidence of this change?
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