well, if you're going to abandon testing, then there's no point employing people to test.

Go back further. The process of deregulation etc began in the 1980s. Successive governments have continued it.

Which point was supposedly incorrect?

The one where I agreed that cottage pie is supposedly beef or the one I agreed shepherds pie was lamb?

Or was it referring to a dig at a political event a satire?

Anyway, don't want to derail this thread any more over minor points of comprehension.

I see B&Q have had to take all their flooring off the shelves as they have found laminate

[url=http://www.thegrocer.co.uk/topics/food-safety/horse-meat/why-should-we-pay-for-your-mess-consumers-ask/236664.articleInteresting results of a survey in The Grocer[/url

So 29% will buy more British meat.

Good. I have dashed off a memo to all the horses I am backing at Cheltenham, so they are under no illusions.

C4 Dispatches NOW

Do you mean Panorama? It's on now - 8.30PM.

Of course, silly me.

That's why I mentioned a channel that was not the BBC and a programme that has never appeared on the BBC

Silly me, thinking you wouldn't watch such a chavy channel. Did they squeeze it in between multiple episodes of 'Come Dine With Me'. Or, perhaps it was an equine edition of the show?

You obviously missed this from the TV thread:



Dispatches has, in many ways, overtaken Panorama in investigative journalism

I agree that Panorama has been a joke for years now. There is very little investigation and the sort of one-eyed, inane, lowest common-denominator 'journalism' that I have come to expect from of the Mail or Guardian.

The aspect I find disappointing is that 50% of people wouldn't be willing to pay more for their food.
Hence, manufacturers will continue to find ways of using cheaper ingredients that those consumers wouldn't necessarily want in their food.

Personally, I would rather pay a little bit extra for my actual food and forgo the Mars Bar and the Coca Cola.

I think that, for many people, there are very serious issues about the rising cost of living – not least, housing costs – and food being seen as one thing that can be trimmed when times are tough. Some of that is still based on the myth that convenience is cheap and the lack of cooking skills. But that's not just it.

It does astonish me – and I've had the conversation more than a few times – that some people, who think nothing of paying several quid for a packet of fags or a beer, or a fiver for a McDonalds meal, think that food is too expensive.

Now they're entirely within their rights to decide that they will prioritise the beer or the cigarettes, but how, when compared to those things, they can consider, say, £2 for a loaf of bread exorbitantly expensive is beyond me.

And the idea that food should be cheap as chips (so to speak) has been pushed for years by the high-profile price wars between, in particular, Tesco and Asda (Wal-Mart), plus the likes of Iceland, whose hypocritical boss seems to have conveniently forgotten that.

As a slight aside, I wouldn't answer 'yes' to spending more on meat if asked in that survey, on the grounds that I already buy from farmers/producers that I can trust – most of the time, directly, without a middle-man. And I'm in the fortunate enough position to be able to pay for that.

It's a pity The Grocer didn't supply a demographic split for the graph, as they did for the table below it

On the Panorama programme he was so sweepingly dismissive of the questions that the impression he gave was as simply not credible, no-one would trust him I'm sure.
The Gerald Ratner of food retailing.


Hmm, yes, you are already spending the "more" that they were asking about.

That would have been interesting.



Yes, indeed!

The only positive thing I could say about him was that he made a refreshing change from the usual PR orientated clones. But he did himself and the company no favours.

I see that B&Q are now caught up in the scandal.

Apparently, some of their wooden flooring's got laminate

You'll soon find Giraffe in Tesco .... according to [url=http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-21769507this report[/url
If I were sticking my neck out, I'd say they were flogging a dead horse...

Ouch!

And today we present [url=http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/dog-cat-curry-fears-over-1789118Dog or cat curry[/url

If what I read is true and the lab doing the testing hasn't bothered testing for rabbit or deer meat, then frankly I'm amazed. When I lived in Staffs, a mate of mine had a very lucrative sideline supplying the local Indian, Chinese and balti restaurants and takeaways with trapped or shot rabbit and the occasional bambi. This then appeared on the menu simply labelled as "Meat curry"

Reminds me of the apocryphal story I heard at uni, about a Manchester takeaway where a dog was found in the freezer. The owner apparently offered a reward to find out who had put it there...

Venison burgers?
Can't afford 'em cos they're dead deer