The problem is that Quitters don't want to live in the world as it is instead of the world as they wish it was (I'd say the world they wish they could recreate but it's all a sad, nostalgia-fumed illusion). They think it's as simple as having a free trade zone but with none of the regulatory alignment which makes such a thing work. It's so sadly delusional.

It’s pretty pathetic especially when you consider that on a lot of things (especially things like animal welfare in farming and safety standards) our own standards are higher than the EU minimum. We were the ones driving EU regulation and pushing for improvements.

Interesting concept.

However, there seems little doubt that the UK wished to decide it's own regulations on a whole host of issues and while we may be in line with the EU on some things, we are keen to review many others and when you listen to people like Jacob Rees Mogg (who suggests that there should be no "entitlement" to paid holidays or maternity pay), there seems to be no doubt whatsoever that we will be reducing employment rights.
A blindman can spot the direction of travel here and the destination isn't quite the "sunlit uplands" that were mentioned by David Davis.

When you have the Governor of the Bank of England telling us of the "hit" to the economy, it is now clear that "we" voted to make ourselves and the country poorer and having idiots like Truss calling other parties "the anti growth coalition", when her party (with some support from others) delivered the single biggest hit to our prosperity , it makes you despair.

Happy New Year everyone.

The UK (as a whole) didn’t though did we? Don’t forget the likes of Rees Mogg and the rest of the ERG were on the fringes and quite rightly viewed as the cranks they are before the referendum.

They were very clever in the way they framed the argument as being about taking back control of our own laws - as if it were the EU holding us back. When all along it was about them deregulating everything so that they (and their donors) could line their pockets. You only have to look at the fact you can’t go swimming at the seaside anymore without risking making yourself ill for proof of that.

In fact, any mention that that was the intention was quickly dismissed as “project fear”. Yet here we are and people have been that taken in that they’re asking for their living standards to be reduced.

The Conservatives government since coming to power years ago have been totally useless and incompetent. The frightening part is the constant mistakes have been catastrophic. So it’s highly unlikely they will make Brexit successful as they are spectacular useless at everything else.
A source of irritation to me is this stupid growth for zero carbon emissions. Be nice before moving forward with that they could stop discharging sewage into our river systems. It beggars believe that in the year 2023 water companies are still allowed to undertake this shameful practice.

Criminal Sunak brexits his bowels on criminal Bozo

I wonder if Sunak appreciates that his recent comments stating what a unique and advantageous position Northern Ireland is in by by both being in the single market and free access to the British markets. Is this not what all businesses had in the U.K. prior to Brexit.

No apologies for repeating my earlier comments on this thread. This government is incompetent on a grand scale. I honestly can’t think of any thing they have done anything in a positive way that has improved society. So it’s highly unlikely that they would make any success of Brexit. It seems a collective madness has overtaken the Conservatives. It’s split into factions, the most bizarre one is the movement to bring Johnson back. Unbelievable how many times can one person be exposed for habitual lying. Suppose the best one was no border in the Irish sea. Mighty strange that sunak has potentially abolished the non existent border. Still looking on the bright side Johnson has made 5 million smackers since stepping down and bought himself a 4 million quid House .

Brexit bonus.

A change in the law allows the growing and cultivation of GM crops.

Only applies to England as both Wales and Scotland are keeping the ban. EU law is applicable in Northern Ireland.

You will be able to add to that meat from Australia that cannot be sold in the EU but it is ok for us because it cheaper for the lower classes to eat.

I realise that this thread has been dormant for quite a while but, after Mr Farage declared Brexit to be a failure, I though that it deserved a mention.
It would be churlish to say, "told you so" but, was it really worth it.
The only G7 nation not to have GDP back to pre pandemic levels and a s***show for a government.

Isn't Brexit brilliant (not)

Car manufacturers wanting the Brexit deal renegotiated and Kemi the clown saying it's nowt to do with Brexit.
This government should all be working for Billy Smart.

Listening to Campbell's podcast with Osborne it was the inability of the remain campaign's to combat the control of the borders if we remained in the EU. Johnson/Cummins/Gove always had that.

The Brexit campaign was more effective than the Remain campaign, no doubt about that.

Of course it was. The brexit campaign was directed at red top readers who lapped up the lies

We all knew the Leave campaigners were shysters. Cameron and Osborne, on the other hand, painted themselves as the "nice guys" of the Conservative party, yet they had no problems in the past with using the EU as a target for the blame when things weren't going well here in the UK. The Leave side would stick two fingers up to your face but Cameron and Osborne would smile to your face, wish you a good day, wave as you turned away then stick two fingers up behind your back as you walked away.

The Brexit supporters are clearly insecure because every crisis is because of the jealous remainers.

Bloody Hell, I agree with WW69, I'm going for a lie down

So what you're saying is that the lead campaigners on BOTH sides were shysters? Which of course they were/ are.
It might have been a bit of a task to to convince people to back Cameron and Osborne after they'd just inflicted 6 years of austerity on you.

Its true though. A lot of my friends take the Sun, Mirror etc as Gospel. They could print a headline that the Sky is green and they would believe them.

Brexit supporters are the kind of people who share missing dog posts from another country on Facebook

Deary, deary me

It's always easier to sell something "new", especially when the country was struggling.

Especially when you talk a load of made up rubbish, make fanciful statements about what might happen and dismiss every real world consequence of leaving as "project fear".

You have friends' ?.

Make no mistake, everything in wrencats head is not made up rubbish, he believes every word of it.