Just for a little balance or does this not count. https://www.independent.co.uk/voices/co ... 07850.html

Just for a little balance or does this not count. https://www.independent.co.uk/voices/co ... 07850.html

Quote ="Scarlet Pimpernell"Just for a little balance or does this not count. https://www.independent.co.uk/voices/co ... 07850.html'" I Don't think he was a terrorist, just a c###

Quote ="Scarlet Pimpernell"Just for a little balance or does this not count. https://www.independent.co.uk/voices/co ... 07850.html'" I Don't think he was a terrorist, just a c###

I think the families of those that disappeared or died during his dictatorship would disagree and let us not forget she was one of a very few leaders who supported the White South African regime during apartheid.

Quote ="Scarlet Pimpernell"Just for a little balance or does this not count. https://www.independent.co.uk/voices/co ... 07850.html'" Maybe she found him more exciting than Dennis, and was just having a thingy with him.

Quote ="Scarlet Pimpernell"Just for a little balance or does this not count. https://www.independent.co.uk/voices/co ... 07850.html'" Maybe she found him more exciting than Dennis, and was just having a thingy with him.

Levelling up going well.
Us Yorkshire folk will now be left with 20th century "slow" trains, while those in the South have HS2 and the new London Crossrail.

Seems to go right against the "policy£ of trying to move things away from London.

Absolutely grotesque isn't it. This government has done some abominable things but I think this is perhaps individually the worst (so far).

HS2 just for London would never have been signed off in the first place as an economic or transport solution. The whole point was that it was a once-in-a-generation, whole-nation improvement in our railway network, taking the fastest trains off existing lines where local trains currently have to dodge around them and opening up huge opportunities for capacity improvements for local schedules and much more scope to move slower-moving freight along those lines. It was fundamental to the UK's supposed climate promises. To do away with it now is just the most treacherous thing the Tories could ever have done to millions in the north - and is two fingers up to our emissions plans. It simply means in future there will be more car journeys and more lorries on the roads. Any idea what political party the road lobby is heavily invested in?

The Northern independence movement will continue to gain popularity. London is basically a different an entirely different country at this point

Of course the people actually in London don't even vote for the Tories. But the big business and rich people in the areas outside it do and they are the real beneficiaries.

If the section to the North East of HS2 can be duplicated in time saving by using the existing infrastructure why do we need HS2 at all based on that reasoning.

In a word....” Corruption”.
All them hefty kickbacks being trousered by the tories

Sticky subject here squire.

HS2 is all about sucking the fast, long-distance trains onto one network and freeing up the existing network for improving everything else.
HS2 is all about capacity and segregation. Despite what some people keep saying speed and time savings are a side effect not the core reason.

The reason for HS2 is now irrelevant because it stops for us here in the North East at Birmingham.

Well yes, without both northern legs HS2 itself would never have been approved as the critical mass of benefits came building from all of it, not part.

Surely, it's more fundamental than that.
IF we are this top nation, showing the world how great Britain is, we should strive to have the best infrastructure that we can and just as other leading nations have high speed rail, the UK should be keeping up.
The decision to cull HS2 to the North East is appalling, its just as neccessary up here as it is "down South"

Down south won't fully benefit from it either by only half doing it though, that's the most stupid thing about this. You won't free up all the capacity to places like Stevenage and up to Peterborough because fast Scotland and Yorkshire to London trains will still be going down the old line.
It's just a moronic decision taken by short-termist fools who don't think strategically or act in the interests of anyone other than themselves and the people who pay them.

If only they'd have consulted you first eh nod

I thought we'd finally got confirmation from you that you don't follow the news, don't read and aren't into the detail.

Given that, please forgive vs for not taking your views particularly seriously.

I'd have concerns about you if you did.

Absolutely correct

It’s cancelled cos of Tory voting Nimbys

It doesn’t matter the reason because it’s stopping at the East Midlands Hub. I don’t know how anyone could think Boris had made any promises because that is complete rubbish apparently.

Couldn't you sleep with worry

"We don't care being lied to about major policies because... culture war / brexit etc etc".

https://twitter.com/haggis_uk/status/14 ... 30341?s=21 Jesus Christ this is our leader.

https://twitter.com/haggis_uk/status/14 ... 30341?s=21 Jesus Christ this is our leader.