You have misrepresented me.

Kindly edit or delete your post please.

Thank you.

I have plenty compassion for those who are genuinely in need. It's the wasters who opt for benefits as a lifestyle choice that I have no sympathy for.

But how do you know the genuine ones from the "wasters"? Are you a curtain twitcher who knows everyones business or you just know that the next door neighbours girlfriends cousin has a 50inch plasma screen, goes on foreign holidays 41 weeks a year, has a "free car" and has an immaculate garden so they can't possibly be disabled?

Benefits are a life style choice for me as I can't earn a decent living by working.

I'm just curious how you can come to that conclusion without knowing everyones business??

Surely in this day and age most people can? I don't know your circumstances, but you are clearly capable of typing on a PC. There must be work that you can do?

I think you also might have given yourself away a tad with the word "decent".

Why should the taxpayer fund people who decide not to work as they can't, in their opinion, earn a "decent" living.

Surely if they can earn ANY living, then they should be doing it? The benefits are the safety net if all else fails.

No. I haven't.

You have posted about how sad the Pussy Riot trail outcome is, how bad it is for democracy.

Ergo you are claiming to know/care about freedom of speech.

Ergo you should know about the Twitter joke trial.

Ergo you should be able to understand the point made here.

And that just shows your ignorance. I have a disease that causes severe fatigue so I am tired a lot which bears no relevance if I can type or not.

You misquoted me. All I am asking is for that to be removed.

Ergo Thanks.

You really are a twerp. Although your sig is a constant reminder of that, were it required.

As for taxpayer funding things, why should the taxpayer help fund the luxurious lifestyles of many others? Bosses of companies who don't pay a decent wage, for instance, leaving the taxpayer to subsidise their profits.

Companies that refuse to pay their due tax.

Companies that accept subsidies from the taxpayer - and then rip off the public to gain ever great profits.

The amount spent bailing out the corrupt, gambling banks was so far in excess of what is lost in benefit fraud that people like you crying about it is simply pathetic and tawdry, and indicative of massive gullibility.

I didn't "quote" you at all.

Page 18, second post up from the bottom.

Either you or someone has hacked your account it would appear..............

You really have no idea do you?? You either listen to all the propaganda or don't live in the real world along with the rest of the tories.

I have never revealed which political party I support.

Well my world involves going out and working to generate taxes to keep people who don't in benefits.

I would say that's the real world wouldn't you?

No the real world for me is injecting a cancer drug every week, having to go to hospital once a month for infusions, napping most of the day, not being able to physically walk far, having to have spouse help you wipe your bottom, being so out of it on morphine, having 3 prosthtic joints and having an ankle fused.

That's the real world for me that live everyday. You are an ignorant and arrogant man if you believe people like me don't deserve any help after paying into the system for nearly 20 years.

And show me where I said you were a tory? But you have certainly implied it.

Firstly, irrespective of your politics I sympathise with your condition, I honestly do.

Right, now your use of "rest of the Tories" implies that I am one myself.

I might be, I might not be, but you don't know for certain.

I also did not say that people in your position don't deserve help. If you have paid in AND are in the situation that you find yourself in, I would think that you should be first in the queue for help.

What if she hadn't "paid in"? Would she deserve no help?

What about people disabled from birth, don't they deserve help because they havn't paid in?

Yep, or young people who are unemployed.

I don't need or want your sympathy. All I want in my time of need is a bit of help from the government which is what I was promised way back in the 40's when the welfare state was born. I paid my NI in full every month without fail so why can't the government reciprocate?

Do you think I gave up a good full time job for 96 quid a week because I wanted to?!!

The defining factor of a civilised society is one which collects a levy from it citizens in order to provide a mutually agreeable level of public services (water, power, drainage, communications, roads, etc) as a bare minimum, the starter pack if you will.

The USA fits this description, they bought into the starter pack.

As a top up pack you can also add to the provisions a health pack (cradle to grave, free at the point of service), a pension pack (a basic state provision topped up by additional benefits), and a safety net of out of work benefits for when you hit those unforeseen moments in life, like your employer goes bust for instance.

The UK bought into all of those top up packs.


A civilised country should measure its esteem by the way it values its social provisions, supports its weak, and helps out those who are temporarily unemployed.

I find the USA model of "small government" very difficult to reconcile, I correspond with several American artists and find that they are all of the same opinion, that they will help themselves when in dire straits and they don't want a government to meddle in their affairs, even to the extent where they do not expect to receive medical treatment as a citizen right and if their neighbour dies because they didn't have enough or the right or kind or any medical insurance, then that is simply their fault and no-one elses concern - these are otherwise normal, kind, sharing folk and when I point out to them that if they come to the UK and are taken ill then they will be treated for free they all state without hesitation that they would refuse treatment, they will pay their way or have none at all.


Right now we have a perfect storm, rising unemployment coupled with three years of falling output and subsequent loss of tax revenue, and a government determined to use the American model as a "go forward" position either from dogged political belligerence or because they think its a quick fix to a financial position that is often exaggerated, over-estimated or simply invented for the sake of the next round of dogma.

I can't think of one week so far into this coalition's term when they haven't had a lie exposed, or done a U-turn, or just said stupid ill-conceived things, its like you're working for a company being managed by Mr Bean and as time goes on the gaffs will get bigger and the resentment will grow, either against their political parties, or from their supporters towards sectors of society who they have carefully presented as the cause of all evil, there are very similar undertones to that of Germany in the 1930s.

Ah. That.

Nope. Still entirely relevant.

Whinging that someone had made a "death threat" against you is entirely relevant to the Twitter joke trial.

You just announced that, if she could get to a PC, she could do some work.

Talk about leaping to conclusions based on your prejudices, and without bothering about facts.

Oh and have a load of this before you whinge on about 'benefit fraud'.



And if you wish to challenge the stats represented simply here, then feel free – with evidence.

Another very good post.

And just to reiterate what I mentioned a couple of time: when this coalition came to power, it inherited growth and a stabilised employment situation.

But then you get cretinous, factually incorrect bull like [url=http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2012/08/17/tories-say-british-workers-lazy_n_1796576.htmlthis[/url, from privileged brats who wouldn't know what a proper day's work was if it stood up and hit them very firmly across their wobbly, spoilt faces.

I prefer a lie-in to hard work, it doesn't mean that when the time comes to work I don't work hard.

But it was aimed at me. It was meant to cause distress and was abusive because it labelled me a ''.

Absolutely valid point. And I'm sure that's widespread.



Less than 18 months ago, the [iDaily Mail[/i carried an article boasting about how people in the UK now works more hours than our western European counterparts – it's apparently one of M Thatcher's greatest legacies.

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