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| Quote ="WIZEB"eusa_naughty.gif
You are a good example of the BS bomb culture.
Do you really need to laud Caudwell to people?
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I'll explain it to you REALLY SLOWLY so you might actually get the point.
Mike Ashley and the SD board put forward a bonus scheme that was rejected, probably because of the fact that Mike Ashley was awarding himself a bonus of 26 million pounds.
Mike Ashley and the board put forward a second bonus scheme that has regular employees pocketing 43 grand each. THE SIZE OF THE BONUS THAT MIKE ASHLEY IS TO RECEIVE IS NOT STATED.
The fact that you then point to that article with a round of applause for Mike Ashley shows that you are precisely the target audience for BS spread in the media.
Anyone with a working brain reads that article knows that the size of the payout to Ashley needs to be known or there will be suspicion that Ashley is just using the bonus award to the staff as a way to get through his award without people noticing.
I then put to you a blatant example of theft by David Cameron and his buddies of 14 billion pounds from the UK taxpayer which was hidden behind a bribe of 10,000 to each person in the UK.
Your reply then was to joke that you're not bothered by that, screw the 10 grand you're taking the 43 grand bonus, quitting your job and ing the year away abroad.
Your quoting of DaveO was completely irrelevant. You are too stupid to even understand the basic examples placed in front of you. You try and divert attention from that fact by farting and then sticking your hand in your armpit and making farting sounds.
No one will come to your defence because you are STUPID. No one will come in and say I'm right because I'm a mean bully and I'm picking on a retard.
Now, your next reply is to fart, burp and do a fart noise with you armpit at the same time.
Even I laugh because I can't believe you can co-ordinate the three noises at the same time.
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| Quote ="100% Wire"Alas, Mr Cameron does not want us watching pornography, unless we ask our ISP's nicely if we'd like to watch it, and i'm SURRRRE records of people who have asked for porn to be unblocked would definitely NOT be kept on some sort of 'ayup, he's a pervert/peado' database for future use. No siree bob. I hope nobody here has a r*pe kink either, criminals! We may as well all upsticks to China
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There a far, far too many questions to ask Cameron on this subject but I wish someone would nail him to achair in a TV studio and start...
Questions like, "The rape scene in "Straw Dogs" or the rape scene in "The Accused", presumably it will be illegal to hold dvd copies of these films or for TV companies to show those films ever again ?"
or,
"Who is the arbitrator of porn, what is porn, how many companies and individuals who sell porn of any description have contributed to your political party in the past, or will do in future ?"
and,
"Why won't you join the campaign to rid tabloids of their page three photos or condemn online newspaper sites with their obsession with underage daughters of celebrities in swimsuits or gym gear whilst describing them as "leggy beauties" (c. Mintball )"
Its just more soundbite politics with not a thought of how its going to happen - a bit like me walking in the house and declaring that we're all going on holiday to Sandy Lane Barbados and then when the family get all excited saying , "erm, hang on a minute..."
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| Quote ="JerryChicken"Its just more soundbite politics with not a thought of how its going to happen - a bit like me walking in the house and declaring that we're all going on holiday to Sandy Lane Barbados and then when the family get all excited saying , "erm, hang on a minute..."'"
It's total garbage, I agree, if people's "kids" are accessing porn then I suggest the parents are failing in their basic duty, he wont put a minimum price on alcohol, nor will he tax fat f'rs for remaining fat, but he wants to control the internet.
I'm probably one of an increasing majority that think all of the current crop of politicians are just useless bags of wind.
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| Quote ="Lord God Jose Mourinho"I'll explain it to you REALLY SLOWLY so you might actually get the point.
Mike Ashley and the SD board put forward a bonus scheme that was rejected, probably because of the fact that Mike Ashley was awarding himself a bonus of 26 million pounds.
Mike Ashley and the board put forward a second bonus scheme that has regular employees pocketing 43 grand each. THE SIZE OF THE BONUS THAT MIKE ASHLEY IS TO RECEIVE IS NOT STATED.
The fact that you then point to that article with a round of applause for Mike Ashley shows that you are precisely the target audience for BS spread in the media.
Anyone with a working brain reads that article knows that the size of the payout to Ashley needs to be known or there will be suspicion that Ashley is just using the bonus award to the staff as a way to get through his award without people noticing.
I then put to you a blatant example of theft by David Cameron and his buddies of 14 billion pounds from the UK taxpayer which was hidden behind a bribe of 10,000 to each person in the UK.
Your reply then was to joke that you're not bothered by that, screw the 10 grand you're taking the 43 grand bonus, quitting your job and ing the year away abroad.
Your quoting of DaveO was completely irrelevant. You are too stupid to even understand the basic examples placed in front of you. You try and divert attention from that fact by farting and then sticking your hand in your armpit and making farting sounds.
No one will come to your defence because you are STUPID. No one will come in and say I'm right because I'm a mean bully and I'm picking on a retard.
Now, your next reply is to fart, burp and do a fart noise with you armpit at the same time.
Even I laugh because I can't believe you can co-ordinate the three noises at the same time.'"
You're a paranoid little twerp.
I don't want people coming to my defence, unlike you, you stupid little fookwit moron.
You're making things up, again, about any bodily functions I might, or might not be be carrying out.
Whether I agree or disagree with your perception of why Ashley is awarding a minimum of 43K to his employees is totally irrelevant.
Like Coddy says it properly suits the company for tax efficiency purposes, but I'll applaud him b'cos I don't know of many other companies who give half their employees who earn under 20 k a year a 43 k bonus, do you?
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| Quote ="WIZEB"You're a paranoid little twerp.'"
Paranoid? Do you even know what that means?
Quote I don't want people coming to my defence, unlike you, you stupid little fookwit moron.'"
Sadly, you need them. Pretty much anyone reading this thread can see that you're an idiot and I'm slapping you around.
Now, I don't need people to defend me because I can READ and UNDERSTAND our discussions. You do need someone to tell you that you are stupid. But the problem is that it's kind of awkward to tell people that they're thick. So they just step back and feel bad for you. While also thinking that you should have spent more time in school and less time sniffing glue.
Quote You're making things up, again, about any bodily functions I might, or might not be be carrying out.'"
Quote Whether I agree or disagree with your perception of why Ashley is awarding a minimum of 43K to his employees is totally irrelevant.
Like Coddy says it properly suits the company for tax efficiency purposes, but I'll applaud him b'cos I don't know of many other companies who give half their employees who earn under 20 k a year a 43 k bonus, do you?'"
The employees of SD have had a bumper windfall. That's great for them. Right now.
The details of whether that is actually so great are hidden behind the headlines. The fact that Ashley's first concern was his own pocket suggests something might be amiss.
If next month it emerges that Ashley took home a 50m bonus in his scheme I think he'll be very pleased that the people are as stupid as you.
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| Quote ="Lord God Jose Mourinho"Paranoid? Do you even know what that means?
Sadly, you need them. Pretty much anyone reading this thread can see that you're an idiot and I'm slapping you around.
Now, I don't need people to defend me because I can READ and UNDERSTAND our discussions. You do need someone to tell you that you are stupid. But the problem is that it's kind of awkward to tell people that they're thick. So they just step back and feel bad for you. While also thinking that you should have spent more time in school and less time sniffing glue.
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All bollox, but you seem intent on bigging yourself up, so be it, congratulations.
Quote The employees of SD have had a bumper windfall. That's great for them. Right now.'"
Agreed.
Quote The details of whether that is actually so great are hidden behind the headlines. The fact that Ashley's first concern was his own pocket suggests something might be amiss.'"
And for all the bollox you've spouted perhaps there's nothing amiss?
Perhaps he just feels like redistributing some of his companies record earnings amongst his excellent staff?
Perhaps the tax-man would gobble it up otherwise?
And yes, businessmen/company owners are generally concerned with their own pockets, it's generally why they do what they do.
Didn't you know that?
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| Quote ="Lord God Jose Mourinho"
If next month it emerges that Ashley took home a 50m bonus in his scheme I think he'll be very pleased that the people are as stupid as you.'"
It's no longer a publicly quoted company, we (the public) shouldn't give a damn what happens to the profits. The only person that will be concerned is the taxman and given all the attendant publicity, I can't imagine Ashley trying to pull a fast one there. Unlike Philip Green, who managed to channel all profits through his Monaco-based wife, simply to avoid UK tax.
One thing is for sure, when the SD employees start spending their money, it's a fair bet that money will be spent in the UK, so stimulating the economy
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| Quote ="WIZEB"You're a paranoid little twerp.
I don't want people coming to my defence, unlike you, you stupid little fookwit moron.
You're making things up, again, about any bodily functions I might, or might not be be carrying out.
Whether I agree or disagree with your perception of why Ashley is awarding a minimum of 43K to his employees is totally irrelevant.
Like Coddy says it properly suits the company for tax efficiency purposes, but I'll applaud him b'cos I don't know of many other companies who give half their employees who earn under 20 k a year a 43 k bonus, do you?'"
Nice bit of abuse there. Wonder if the mods will act?
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| Quote ="Ajw71"icon_lol.gif Nice bit of abuse there. Wonder if the mods will act?'"
Did you miss the initial [istupid[/i and [iretard[/i comments?
I like a bit of redistribution of slagging.
Were all big boys and girls on here aren't we?
Apart from you, of course Ajw.
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| Quote ="WIZEB"Did you miss the initial [istupid[/i and [iretard[/i comments?
I like a bit of redistribution of slagging.
Were all big boys and girls on here aren't we?
Apart from you, of course Ajw.
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All abuse of people on internet forums is pathetic. Just shows that your inability to be able to construct an argument.
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| Quote ="Ajw71"All abuse of people on internet forums is pathetic. Just shows that your inability to be able to construct an argument.'"
Ah, you did miss it then?
Unsurprised.
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| Quote ="WIZEB"Did you miss the initial [istupid[/i and [iretard[/i comments?'"
I have abused many people on here.
Calling your arguments retarded and stupid isn't abuse, it's the truth.
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| Quote ="Ajw71"All abuse of people on internet forums is pathetic. Just shows that your inability to be able to construct an argument.'"
I believe I offer reasoned opinions on here. I prefer to debate facts.
If someone ignores the facts and chooses to have a cheap dig into my ribs, I'll try and break his/her nose.
How far am I willing to go? Way too far.
But I don't think I've too often gone too far on anyone who hasn't been asking for it.
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| Quote ="Lord God Jose Mourinho"I believe I offer reasoned opinions on here. I prefer to debate facts.
If someone ignores the facts and chooses to have a cheap dig into my ribs, I'll try and break his/her nose.
How far am I willing to go? Way too far.
But I don't think I've too often gone too far on anyone who hasn't been asking for it.'"
That statement is reminiscient of Brian London's after he fought Cassius Clay
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| Quote ="Lord God Jose Mourinho"I believe I offer reasoned opinions on here. I prefer to debate facts.
If someone ignores the facts and chooses to have a cheap dig into my ribs, I'll try and break his/her nose.
How far am I willing to go? Way too far.
But I don't think I've too often gone too far on anyone who hasn't been asking for it.'"
You're a fooking loony.
It was you who came on here talking fooking gibberish about BS bombs exploding everywhere.
I praised Ashley for rewarding his staff with a 43k bonus to which you took exception citing ulterior motives.
Fair enough, but don't start feeling sorry for yourself, and crying like a little girl.
Sweet dreams.
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| Quote ="WIZEB"
Fair enough, but don't start feeling sorry for yourself, and crying like a little girl.
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Be careful - he / she finds it stressful using a paper map! Name calling could send him / over the top.
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| Quote ="Dally"Be careful - he / she finds it stressful using a paper map! Name calling could send him / over the top.'"
Fair dinkum.
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| Quote ="cod'ead"That statement is reminiscient of Brian London's after he fought Cassius Clay'"
I wasn't born at the time, but Brian London didn't fight Cassius Clay. He fought Muhammad Ali.
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| Quote ="Lord God Jose Mourinho"I wasn't born at the time, but Brian London didn't fight Cassius Clay. He fought Muhammad Ali.'"
Correct, Clay became Ali shortly after the Liston fight, I think London fought him a few years later.
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| Quote ="Lord God Jose Mourinho"
If next month it emerges that Ashley took home a 50m bonus in his scheme I think he'll be very pleased that the people are as stupid as you.'"
It's not a bonus in the conventional sense. Ashley takes no other income from the company, he doesn't even draw a salary from it. If the company hits pre-agreed targets then he gets well rewarded, if they don't then he doesn't.
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| Quote ="Ajw71"All abuse of people on internet forums is pathetic. Just shows that your inability to be able to construct an argument.'"
Hilarious coming from you.
Unless you consider that pop-up, make an unproven comment and then play forum hide-and-seek constitutes constructing an argument.
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| Quote ="Derwent"It's not a bonus in the conventional sense. Ashley takes no other income from the company, he doesn't even draw a salary from it. If the company hits pre-agreed targets then he gets well rewarded, if they don't then he doesn't.'"
Wasting your time.
The shareholders at SD seem to be on top of the situation even if random internet posters aren't.
No smoke and daggers or BS bombs.
All pretty transparent as far as one can see.
And well done SD, 72K an employee.
[urlhttp://www.guardian.co.uk/business/2013/jul/18/sports-direct-staff-bonus-mike-ashley[/url
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Quote ="WIZEB"Wasting your time.
The shareholders at SD seem to be on top of the situation even if random internet posters aren't.
No smoke and daggers or BS bombs.
All pretty transparent as far as one can see.
And well done SD, 72K an employee.
[urlhttp://www.guardian.co.uk/business/2013/jul/18/sports-direct-staff-bonus-mike-ashley[/url'"
Yep.
www.guardian.co.uk/business/2011 ... ntive-plan
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Quote ="WIZEB"Wasting your time.
The shareholders at SD seem to be on top of the situation even if random internet posters aren't.
No smoke and daggers or BS bombs.
All pretty transparent as far as one can see.
And well done SD, 72K an employee.
[urlhttp://www.guardian.co.uk/business/2013/jul/18/sports-direct-staff-bonus-mike-ashley[/url'"
Yep.
www.guardian.co.uk/business/2011 ... ntive-plan
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| Quote ="Derwent"It's not a bonus in the conventional sense. Ashley takes no other income from the company, he doesn't even draw a salary from it. If the company hits pre-agreed targets then he gets well rewarded, if they don't then he doesn't.'"
Steve Jobs took a salary of $1 a year from Apple when he went back.
No doubt UNWISEC would offer Jobs a huge for that.
But the details behind that were that he was getting billions from being granted shares. He even had his booty spanked because of an illegal share option he signed off on, if I remember correctly.
And, oh yeah, his employment contract also gave him a fully expensed company vehicle to use as he pleased. That company vehicle just happened to be a Gulfstream private jet. I don't know how much they cost back then, but they go for about $50m now.
My point ever since I got involved in this thread that it's not the headlines that matter, it's the details.
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| Quote ="WIZEB"Wasting your time.
The shareholders at SD seem to be on top of the situation even if random internet posters aren't.
No smoke and daggers or BS bombs.
All pretty transparent as far as one can see.
And well done SD, 72K an employee.
[urlhttp://www.guardian.co.uk/business/2013/jul/18/sports-direct-staff-bonus-mike-ashley[/url'"
And if you read the comments, only 2,000 of his 18,000 staff are eligible for the bonuses.
The other 16,000 are on zero hour contracts.
But obviously, details like this make no difference to you. (I don't know whether they are even true, but they paint a different picture from the headlines.)
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