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| Quote ="Damo-Leeds"I don’t think I’ve ever seen you ever explain anything on here.'"
People do have a life outside of the internet mate.
Quote ="Damo-Leeds"This is probably because you’d be unable to defend your points if you ever went into detail about anything.'"
I've nothing to defend, and I certainly wouldn't go into detail with you.
I've interviewed timewasters such as yourself many, many times, most couldn't be d to get out of bed to come to work never mind do anything when they got there. They wanted to run the place before they knew the first thing about the business.
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| I can accept that Damo.....However, do you really believe the taxpayer should have to look after you, whilst you wait for your perfect job to drop in your lap??
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| Quote ="Big Graeme"People do have a life outside of the internet mate.'"
24954 posts you’ve done on here over the years. I’m sure if I wanted to I could find out how many hours you’ve spent browsing the forums. On top of all that you’ve been a pretty active moderator. Yes people do have a life outside of the internet but don’t try use that excuse as the reason why you can’t ever expand on what you write in detail. Because clearly you’ve had plenty of time to do so.
Quote I've nothing to defend, and I certainly wouldn't go into detail with you.
I've interviewed timewasters such as yourself many, many times, most couldn't be d to get out of bed to come to work never mind do anything when they got there. They wanted to run the place before they knew the first thing about the business.'"
I’m fine with you not defending yourself and I’m fine with you not wanting to go into detail about things. But the longer you insist on not going into detail, the more it confirms that your using it as an excuse to cover up what a nasty excuse of an individual you are. Explaining yourself to me is probably below you anyway.
If I knew I had an interview with yourself I simply wouldn’t turn up either. You come across as the worse type of manager - a jobs worth (your a jobs worth in your role as a moderator on here as well). My uncle is a managing director for a major super market chain and all his kids (my cousins) got jobs on the back of who they know.
My neighbours got a job in a different supermarket for very similar reasons. One of them has dropped out of college (are college drop outs lazy?) but he’s still working and he probably will continue to do so. So this completely blows out your time wasting theory to the gutter.
You’re an individual with a big chip on his shoulder about several things in the world. It appears that you’d rather belittle people in sorry situations than help them. Shame on you and thank goodness society is slowly moving away from the likes of you.
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| Quote ="Damo-Leeds"I’m fine with you not defending yourself and I’m fine with you not wanting to go into detail about things. '"
What do I have to defend? What do I have to got into detail about?
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| Quote ="Big Graeme"What do I have to defend? What do I have to got into detail about?'"
You can start with explaining away the hours you choose to spend on here as oppose to living that life outside the internet that you claim to have. Once you've done that we can move on to the more juicy details about your working life.
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| Quote ="Damo-Leeds"You can start with explaining away the hours you choose to spend on here as oppose to living that life outside the internet that you claim to have. '"
I don't have to explain anything to you or anyone else.
Quote ="Damo-Leeds"Once you've done that we can move on to the more juicy details about your working life.'"
And that isn't going to happen either, just because you choose to share everything with all and sundry doesn't mean I have to.
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| Quote ="Big Graeme"I don't have to explain anything to you or anyone else.
And that isn't going to happen either, just because you choose to share everything with all and sundry doesn't mean I have to.'"
That’s the thing - I never said you did have to. You asked me what you had to defend and what you have to go into detail about. So I told you what you could go into detail about. Whenever you want to go into detail is your choice. It is clear here that you don’t and that’s fair enough.
All your doing here is going in circles because your incapable of taking this debate with me anywhere further than your attempts to provoke me. It’s not happening
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| Quote ="Damo-Leeds"All your doing here is going in circles because your incapable of taking this debate with me anywhere further than your attempts to provoke me. It’s not happening
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| Quote ="Big Graeme"
I've interviewed timewasters such as yourself many, many times, most couldn't be d to get out of bed to come to work never mind do anything when they got there. They wanted to run the place before they knew the first thing about the business.'"
The time wasting there is who does the shortlisting in your HR department that in a climate of high unemployment where there are lots of high calibre and experienced candidates around, that timewasters get through to your interview stage.
Have you used a recruitment consultancy to do the initial shortlisting? Some of the big ones are just rip off merchants but there are smaller local based recruitment consultancies that can get you credible candidates even if you do the interviewing yourself and the smaller ones usually have decent fees.
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| Quote ="sally cinnamon"The time wasting there is who does the shortlisting in your HR department that in a climate of high unemployment where there are lots of high calibre and experienced candidates around, that timewasters get through to your interview stage.'"
Sadly when you run a pub you are the HR department when it comes to staff recruitment.
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Very few companies use consultants to recruit basic entry level staff, the figures just don't stack up.
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| I just want to take some time to write my appreciation for those who’ve shown they support in this thread. It’s a very brave thing of you to do and I’m grateful for that.
I’ve took BG’s advice of reporting his conduct to the admins and it’s up to them what they do with him. If he thinks I deserve bullying then lets see what the admin team (who have a good reputation for dealing with things like this) think about that.
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| If the admins have any sense they'll tell you to crawl back under the rock you came from.
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| Quote ="World of Redboy"If the admins have any sense they'll tell you to crawl back under the rock you came from.'"
If the admins have sense you will be banned for bullying. Shame on you all.
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There's a report here from the British Legion: www.britishlegion.org.uk/media/3 ... 001.06.pdf that was in 2006, so before the recession and the increase in unemployment hit, which had the shocking revelation that unemployment amongst ex members of the armed forces aged 18-49 was twice the rate of the national average for that age range.
Is it time to start looking at cutting their benefits to make them take work? At least they should be getting some entry level work, while they are looking for other jobs.
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There's a report here from the British Legion: www.britishlegion.org.uk/media/3 ... 001.06.pdf that was in 2006, so before the recession and the increase in unemployment hit, which had the shocking revelation that unemployment amongst ex members of the armed forces aged 18-49 was twice the rate of the national average for that age range.
Is it time to start looking at cutting their benefits to make them take work? At least they should be getting some entry level work, while they are looking for other jobs.
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| Quote ="World of Redboy"If the admins have any sense they'll tell you to crawl back under the rock you came from.'"
Well you really don’t know the admins very well.
They will try to find a resolution on what action is needed to be taken for the betterment of all those involved.
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to get away from the Damo sub-thread, perhps Dally or support can explain this:
sport.uk.msn.com/olympics-2012/t ... ker-rights
This is not any toy but one linked to a specific time, to a specific event, and to a specific UK based market. Its not a pair of trainers that could be used for 6 months but a toy that shows off our 2012 pride.
So why couldn't it be made in the UK? Surely it would have still been profitable?
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to get away from the Damo sub-thread, perhps Dally or support can explain this:
sport.uk.msn.com/olympics-2012/t ... ker-rights
This is not any toy but one linked to a specific time, to a specific event, and to a specific UK based market. Its not a pair of trainers that could be used for 6 months but a toy that shows off our 2012 pride.
So why couldn't it be made in the UK? Surely it would have still been profitable?
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| Quote ="Damo-Leeds"24954 posts you’ve done on here over the years. I’m sure if I wanted to I could find out how many hours you’ve spent browsing the forums.'"
Amounting to a sum total of 0.21 posts per day more than you
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Just an update on how to report bullying.
I’ve had a private word with someone and who’s advise me to go through the official channels. So if anyone wants to complain about the bullying that I’ve received at the hands of a certain moderator then feel free to report it via email on admins@rlfans.com
Personally I just want to move on from this ASAP by acknowledging this for what it is - a quiet night gone a bit rowdy. But it’s my responsibility to make sure that no one else has to go through what I’ve been through on this thread. So I’ll be filing a report tomorrow.
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Just an update on how to report bullying.
I’ve had a private word with someone and who’s advise me to go through the official channels. So if anyone wants to complain about the bullying that I’ve received at the hands of a certain moderator then feel free to report it via email on admins@rlfans.com
Personally I just want to move on from this ASAP by acknowledging this for what it is - a quiet night gone a bit rowdy. But it’s my responsibility to make sure that no one else has to go through what I’ve been through on this thread. So I’ll be filing a report tomorrow.
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| .....I'd just like to back Rock GodX's theory that Damo is basically a troll, seeking reaction wherever he goes.
He wants a nice quiet time, yet appeals to others to report the so-called bullying he has supposedly received??...
It isn't even subtle, and I find it slightly amusing that some get wound up by him, which is all that has happened....Certainly, no bullying has taken place, only a soft ass would think that.
Whether he has an illness/syndrome/whatever excuse he uses to dodge working, Damo certainly knows what he is doing.....I think the sheer stupidity of most of his posts make him a valuable asset to this forum, but surely people should just learn to treat him as the buffoon he truly is?
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| ive got an illness/medical condition. i had to give up working in summer 2010 after being off work for 3 months and then working part time for 3 months to see if it worked out for me and the company. it didnt work. i dont get any benefits either as my missus earns a wage slightly above minimum wage so we exist on a pittance these days.
are you judging me too for using my condition as an excuse to "dodge working"??
are you judging others on here who also have conditions that stop them from working too??
im not sure who the "buffoon" truly is in this case!!!!!!!!!
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Quote ="Hillbilly_Red"to get away from the Damo sub-thread, perhps Dally or support can explain this:
sport.uk.msn.com/olympics-2012/t ... ker-rights
This is not any toy but one linked to a specific time, to a specific event, and to a specific UK based market. Its not a pair of trainers that could be used for 6 months but a toy that shows off our 2012 pride.
So why couldn't it be made in the UK? Surely it would have still been profitable?'"
It can be made much, much cheaper in the Far East (including shipment) meaning that the UK company can make money on it. The design, marketing, etc will probably have been done here (which will have generated higher incomes to all here than the manufucturing would). These bulk, low-grade items are best dealt with in lower wage economies. If we do it here, we earn lower wages. At the end of the day the punters will only pay a certain price for what i view assuch pointless tat. When you take off the retailers mark-up, the wholesalers mark-up, the UK manufacturers profit, marketing, design, there's bugger all left to actually make it. So, better that the willing masses of the Far East do that. Everyone is then better off - them AND us. However, China is rapidly doing what Japan did and moving beyond that and costs are rising.
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Quote ="Hillbilly_Red"to get away from the Damo sub-thread, perhps Dally or support can explain this:
sport.uk.msn.com/olympics-2012/t ... ker-rights
This is not any toy but one linked to a specific time, to a specific event, and to a specific UK based market. Its not a pair of trainers that could be used for 6 months but a toy that shows off our 2012 pride.
So why couldn't it be made in the UK? Surely it would have still been profitable?'"
It can be made much, much cheaper in the Far East (including shipment) meaning that the UK company can make money on it. The design, marketing, etc will probably have been done here (which will have generated higher incomes to all here than the manufucturing would). These bulk, low-grade items are best dealt with in lower wage economies. If we do it here, we earn lower wages. At the end of the day the punters will only pay a certain price for what i view assuch pointless tat. When you take off the retailers mark-up, the wholesalers mark-up, the UK manufacturers profit, marketing, design, there's bugger all left to actually make it. So, better that the willing masses of the Far East do that. Everyone is then better off - them AND us. However, China is rapidly doing what Japan did and moving beyond that and costs are rising.
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| Quote ="Dita's Slot Meter"It isn't even subtle, and I find it slightly amusing that some get wound up by him, which is all that has happened....Certainly, no bullying has taken place, only a soft ass would think that.'"
BG doesn’t want to deal with the accusations that he’s a bully so he passes that responsibility onto the admin team. I’m sure that if someone did the same to him with what he’s done to me then they would have been gone by now. To expand on this, [url=http://viewtopic.php?p=16664505#p16664505yesterday he even used his position as moderator to intimidate a member to not correspond with him in the manner that they did[/url.
Bullying is a very gray subject. I’m all for peoples opinions and we just leave it at that. But it’s clear in this thread that BG wants something a bit more sinister out of me as opposed to just a genuine heated debate.
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| Quote ="Damo-Leeds"But it’s clear in this thread that BG wants something a bit more sinister out of me as opposed to just a genuine heated debate.'"
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| Damo this is a battle you can't win, and by trying to protest you're just fighting a battle on terms that they control, the mods are just laughing at you they will say they haven't breached their AUP and that you brought it on yourself. They want to lord their cyberpower over you as this is a web forum and that's a bit of limited power they have in their lives.
Anyway it's not as though this is a case of infringements in human rights, it's just some people writing stuff on a web forum, there might be 4 or 5 getting their kicks out of picking on you but the rest of us can see what their behaviour is and that's why you've had support with people commenting that they are out of order, it's not you in the wrong, they are showing themselves up as sad acts.
The downside of a democracy is you have to listen to all sorts of idiots and on the Sin Bin there are a few users on here who don't have the capacity to handle a proper debate that respects other people, every thread they are in they get involved in some mud slinging insults against each other (we all know who I mean).
So unfortunately if you're going to read the Sin Bin and post in threads you have to put up with the fact this lot are roaming round it, the best way to cut short an argument of personal insults is not to answer to any post that's a personal attack, if someone slags you off online just ignore it, you don't have to justify yourself to randomers on the internet...
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| Quote ="Mintball"Ah but at least he had a comprehension about economics and wasn't some delusional, paranoid conspiracy theorist.'"
Am I to assume the 'delusional, paranoid conspiracy theorist' comment is aimed at me?
If so care to explain why you hold this view?
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