Some of the tattoos on display are far better than the sponsorships that adorn the kits they wear.

Delaney at Leeds sponsored by ' Knuckleduster R us '

I can’t believe this is even a thread it’s not even the off season I know the forum is dying but someone should tell the mods or the people running the site that having fake posters starting crap threads isn’t going to improve it

Don't hang around in toilets then.

Hmmmm of course it's quite 'normal' isn't it, that being the 'new normal'....

Your account could be as fake as the one you're accusing of as far as we're all concerned? The mods can check and see that I have ONE I.P address, I use Firefox and certainly am not using any proxy site.
I think you stick-in-muds simply hate alternative POVs!

The lower the IQ, the more ink I tend to find.

or is it that the jobs people with 'lower IQ's' have tend to lend themselves to it being more acceptable to have visible tattoo's.

An MP or CEO of a blue-chip company will need to conform and having a neck tattoo or a sleeve would be career limiting, having said all this that doesn't mean these people have higher IQ's or are better people.

Lets be honest Mr Beckham or Mr Dre haven't done too badly for themselves and certainly in the latter case is a self made billionaire dragging himself up from the slums to that position,so reckon his IQ maybe higher than his appearance will lend itself

That maybe the case or it maybe being blessed with natural talent? When companies are throwing money at you to endorse their products it is quite easy to be successful (financially). Also when you stand out with natural talent then a lot of "advisers" suddenly appear and want to be your agent and so on, for a fee. Some of these advisers make you, others can ruin you. Didn't Mike Tyson end up bankrupt partly because of having bad people around him?

Natural talent and IQ can come together but it is not always the case. We often hear of flawed geniuses who are talented people but can't help themselves.

Let’s move this to the sin bin where it belongs. Nothing to do with RL lots to do with the cultural issues surrounding tattoos. Mick

Same with keyboards. 21C ink.

I think natural talent will get someone so far, sporting wise more so, entertainment wise not so. The key ingredient is drive and desire, the ones who make it, flawed genius or not all work very very hard to get to the top. The best agent and adviser in the world wont make someone the very best at what they do.

Like wise IQ and intelligence, a high IQ gives you the tool to do something but there are some very stupid intelligent people and a lot of people who can blag being intelligent without being.

Nice one. I am sure that I will look at the portrait of my dear late partner, who died giving birth to our child, that I have on my left shoulder when I am older and think "That looks stupid" Did you ever stop to think that some people get tattoos for different reasons before making such a sweeping statement?

I think it's pretty clear that people get tattoos for many reasons. Having a child, a loved one who has passed, a sporting or musical idol.

That doesn't change the fact tats often end up looking a bit saggy, discoloured and generally pretty rubbish as the years pass.

Each to their own n'all that. Everyone's entitled to their views.

Spot on pal.

I really have no strong view - but this current trend for getting full sleeves, neck and hand tattoos etc, will come back to bite a few people in the bum when they finally enter the grown up world; right or not, it will have an impact on your ability to work in certain professions. But clearly not as RL player.

Totally agree. Be interesting to see what the Todd Carney's will look like in 30 years time.

Big tattoos can look really good. Too often though people just get literally too much ink, so that from anything further than 2 feet away it just looks like grey/green clothing, particularly on the arms. Each to their own though.

I wonder if chavs will start to tattoo their pets ? Obviously it wouldn't work for goldfish.

Hard to keep a goldfish still out of water

Like this?

Ignoring the piercing (lol) do they even look that bad?

Yeah but he's only 26

Those glasses are horrible.