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| Quote ="WIZEB"You do understand that many parents of murdered children don't actually want state retributional murder, don't you?
Should their wishes be considered?'"
No, not at all, its only important that the supporters of state sanctioned murder get their kicks each time the execution notice is posted outside the prison gates, they can have picnics and everything while waiting out there and then go home on the bus with that warm feeling inside that they've rid the world of another murderer.
Until the post execution retrial finds that someone messed up with the evidence, again.
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| Quote ="JerryChicken"No, not at all, its only important that the supporters of state sanctioned murder get their kicks each time the execution notice is posted outside the prison gates, they can have picnics and everything while waiting out there and then go home on the bus with that warm feeling inside that they've rid the world of another murderer.
Until the post execution retrial finds that someone messed up with the evidence, again.'"
Just got me thinking whether we should trial a gladitorial type justicey thingy and have it on live tv (it'd make fantastic telly)?
Camera - pans onto the jury filing back in through the door.
Camera - pans onto judge, 'Have you reached a verdict?'
Camera - pans onto jury foreperson, 'Guilty m'lord'.
Camera - pans back to judge addressing parents of murdered child, 'What shall it be?'
Camera - pans onto parents of murdered child, (the tension of the viewing audience is incalcuable).
Will it be thumbs up for execution or thumbs down for life imprisonment?????????????
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| Quote ="WIZEB"
Will it be thumbs up for execution or thumbs down for life imprisonment?????????????
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| I never get the advocates of Capital punishmnet as being the 'ultimate' punishment, i've said before, a room with a thin mattress, toilet, only water to drink, rice and beans to eat, 23 and a half hours in a cell every day for the rest of their life, if it gets too much and they take their own life so be it, their choice.
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[size=50We could be onto somthing here JC.[/size
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| Quote ="WIZEB"icon_whisper.gif
[size=50We could be onto somthing here JC.[/size'"
How about "I'm a Celebrity, String 'em Up"" in which high profile right wing celebrities (I'm writing to Jim Davison as I speak) compete against each other in a prison setting for the right to be crowned "King of the Rope" and to officiate at an actual live execution, a commercial break would be called for as the prisoner is stood ready on the trapdoor and then when we come back there is a two minute phone-in reprieve slot at premium rates at the end of which Ant or Dec hold one finger to an ear and say "We've now got the results of the phone-in reprieve and the viewers vote is..."
My mobile phone bill would be huge depending on how ugly the criminal is, Ruth Ellis would have got off of course if she really was as good a looker as the films make out.
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| Quote ="Durham Giant"What he does not like Tories and particularly those who backed thatcher.
Still struggling to find any disagreement with those sentiments'"
You have missed the point. Or more likely chosen to deliberately ignore it.
The title of the thread is infantile, spiteful, or possibly both. People have realised this.
It shows complete lack of judgement on the part of the original poster, who now looks like a complete booty. Which is probably why he has not been seen on this thread since.
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| Quote ="JerryChicken"How about "I'm a Celebrity, String 'em Up"" in which high profile right wing celebrities (I'm writing to Jim Davison as I speak) compete against each other in a prison setting for the right to be crowned "King of the Rope" and to officiate at an actual live execution, a commercial break would be called for as the prisoner is stood ready on the trapdoor and then when we come back there is a two minute phone-in reprieve slot at premium rates at the end of which Ant or Dec hold one finger to an ear and say "We've now got the results of the phone-in reprieve and the viewers vote is..."
My mobile phone bill would be huge depending on how ugly the criminal is, Ruth Ellis would have got off of course if she really was as good a looker as the films make out.'"
You got any tv exec contacts?
What if the phone-in audience had the power to reverse the trapdoor position of the prisoner and the tv celebrity?
Now were talking.
Oh what fun.
Littlejohn
Clarkson
Vorderman
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Barlow (Gary and Ken)
Tony Blair (if he wasn't doing such an important job as Middle-East Peace Envoy).
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| Quote ="The Video Ref"As someone else has pointed out, the title of this thread is pathetic. Speaks volumes about the original poster.'"
Agreed. Hardly surprising however as he did once say he wished to slit my throat because I asked him for his opinion on how he would reduce the budget deficit.
Who mentioned political dinosaurs?
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| Quote ="The Video Ref"You have missed the point. Or more likely chosen to deliberately ignore it.
The title of the thread is infantile, spiteful, or possibly both. People have realised this.
It shows complete lack of judgement on the part of the original poster, who now looks like a complete booty. Which is probably why he has not been seen on this thread since.'"
He hasn't been seen because he had other things to do. As for a "lack of judgement", WTF are you to judge? The sentiment expressed in the thread title and OP are entirely sincere: Patnick conspired to deny justice to the families of 96 dead people, only issuing an apology once he'd been called out by a commission of enqury.
At least he has now joined the list of good tories
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| Quote ="Ajw71"Agreed. Hardly surprising however as he did once say he wished to slit my throat because I asked him for his opinion on how he would reduce the budget deficit.
Who mentioned political dinosaurs?'"
Your limited powers of comprehension are no longer in any doubt, there's absolutely no need to prove once again that you have difficulty reading what was actually written
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| Quote ="Horatio Yed"I never get the advocates of Capital punishmnet as being the 'ultimate' punishment, i've said before, a room with a thin mattress, toilet, only water to drink, rice and beans to eat, 23 and a half hours in a cell every day for the rest of their life, if it gets too much and they take their own life so be it, their choice.'"
That's because those advocating capital punishment aren't interested in justice, only revenge
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| Quote ="cod'ead"Your limited powers of comprehension are no longer in any doubt, there's absolutely no need to prove once again that you have difficulty reading what was actually written'"
Quote ="cod'ead"WTF are you to judge?'"
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| Quote ="cod'ead"He hasn't been seen because he had other things to do. As for a "lack of judgement", WTF are you to judge? The sentiment expressed in the thread title and OP are entirely sincere: Patnick conspired to deny justice to the families of 96 dead people, only issuing an apology once he'd been called out by a commission of enqury.
At least he has now joined the list of good tories'"
Did he kill anybody?
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| Quote ="Horatio Yed"I never get the advocates of Capital punishmnet as being the 'ultimate' punishment, i've said before, a room with a thin mattress, toilet, only water to drink, rice and beans to eat, 23 and a half hours in a cell every day for the rest of their life, if it gets too much and they take their own life so be it, their choice.'"
I've said this before, that is a truly abhorrent POV, as is the one expressed by the OP. Sickening.
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| Have taken the champagne off ice now Maggie's out of hospital!
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| Quote ="dr_feelgood"Have taken the champagne off ice now Maggie's out of hospital!'"
Classy, you so sterotype yourself as the typical flat cap one-eyed labourite Northerner, so if someone were to be joyeous over the fact your mum/nan was seriously ill and may possibly die you'd be overjoyed no doubt...tool
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| Quote ="kirkstaller"I've said this before, that is a truly abhorrent POV, as is the one expressed by the OP. Sickening.'"
Why?
It's not killing anyone, it's a preventative punishment.
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| I don't get what all the fuss is about. An unpleasant person has died and the OP is pleased to see the back of him. So what? Should we only be sad when someone dies, however repugnant we find that person? There are plenty of 'positive' RIP threads on here, so why not a 'negative' one?
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| Quote ="dr_feelgood"Have taken the champagne off ice now Maggie's out of hospital!'"
Keep it in the fridge though, the old witch can't last much longer.
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| Quote ="cod'ead"That's because those advocating capital punishment aren't interested in justice, only revenge'"
What a load of rubbish - I am talking about executing those convicted of premeditated crime where there is no doubt e.g London bombers, Peter Sutcliffe, Ian Brady, Rose West etc - not sure how this counts as revenge?
I simply cannot see the value in keeping them alive in reasonable comfort for 40 years+. There's was premeditated murder for which they should suffer the ultimate penalty, Brady - he been in prison since the 60's why? The poor mother who died this year has been tortured all this time he would give up where he buried the boy - if he had been executed he might have given that up at the point of no return.
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| Quote ="Rock God X"I don't get what all the fuss is about. An unpleasant person has died and the OP is pleased to see the back of him. So what? Should we only be sad when someone dies, however repugnant we find that person? There are plenty of 'positive' RIP threads on here, so why not a 'negative' one?'"
Wait until Maggie dies!! Arthur will be celebrating from his London flat - great thing socialism!!
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| Quote ="Sal Paradise"What a load of rubbish - I am talking about executing those convicted of premeditated crime where there is no doubt e.g London bombers, Peter Sutcliffe, Ian Brady, Rose West etc - not sure how this counts as revenge?
I simply cannot see the value in keeping them alive in reasonable comfort for 40 years+. There's was premeditated murder for which they should suffer the ultimate penalty, Brady - he been in prison since the 60's why? The poor mother who died this year has been tortured all this time he would give up where he buried the boy - if he had been executed he might have given that up at the point of no return.'"
All murder is premeditated, it wouldn't be murder if it wasn't.
And if the definition of murder is the planned death of an individual, then what is state execution ?
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| Quote ="Sal Paradise"What a load of rubbish - I am talking about executing those convicted of premeditated crime where there is no doubt e.g London bombers, Peter Sutcliffe, Ian Brady, Rose West etc - not sure how this counts as revenge?
I simply cannot see the value in keeping them alive in reasonable comfort for 40 years+. There's was premeditated murder for which they should suffer the ultimate penalty, Brady - he been in prison since the 60's why? The poor mother who died this year has been tortured all this time he would give up where he buried the boy - if he had been executed he might have given that up at the point of no return.'"
Presumably the London bombers would have been executed if they'd been caught. Although you'd need a pretty good surgeon to prepare them for execution.
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| Quote ="JerryChicken"All murder is premeditated, it wouldn't be murder if it wasn't.
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Not necessarily. You can still commit murder without planning it.
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