You can only aspire to live on a "sink estate" like mine



Now, let me think who you were before your recent name change.
Could be Steph but, he's better than you so, more likely to be our former friend from Hull

2 weeks ago my wife tested positive for covid. i had 2 calls from the nhs to check i was self isolating. both lasted less than 2 minutes and consisted of are you isolating at home and have you met anyone from outside your houshold. total waste of time

So how many calls and how long were you expecting? Sounds to me like they did their job. What did you want? A personal visit and a cuddle? Jeez

i was never asked if i had any symptoms or who i had been in contact with before my wifes positive test. they didnt even bother to tell me about the app . just the basics of a well run track and trace system

I was sent a message saying I had been near someone who tested positive, the problem was I was not in the U.K. and the system did not work. It turned out I was a victim of the fat fingers scandal.

China is a huge economy - they can lockdown 60m people and it would have very limited impact on its economy - again your desire to get at the government impairs your ability to have a rational debate

Not sure what else the government can do - are you suggesting the investment in the furlough etc was a bad thing?

The track and trace would work much better if everyone was more compliant that is pretty obvious. If you really want to bring business to its knees then track and trace is the way.

Even Boris "liar" Johnson is acknowledging that his "world beating" system needs to improve before we can move forward.
Perhaps if they had worked harder on getting it right before their premature proclamation, we may not have been in quite the mess that we are currently in.
Maybe we should have delayed the return to University too

I agree in respect of a more robust tracking system - we appear to have got past the testing issues.

Whenever you would have sent kids back to university this was going to happen - all you would have done is have the same situation in later down the line. The longer you delayed the greater the impact as winter sets in? Leeds the infection rate is now declining as the students get back to normality

If people wont give correct contact details, wont download the app etc the trace system is completely impotent. Business will suffer serious issues if those told to self isolate with no symptoms can't get a test - its crazy.

The rate is falling in Leeds due to your tier 3 status ??

A delayed / staged return would definitely have been the better option, although this would have caused some issues with student accommodation and more precisely, who picked up the tab for the rental on empty property.

Leeds is tier 2?

My apologies, I know that a pal of mine had to withdraw from watching games in our boozer a few weeks ago and I thought you were a level up on Wakefield.
It seems we are in the same "league" after all. The point still stands though.

The spike in cases in Leeds was in areas mostly occupied by students e.g. central, Hyde Park it is no surprise two weeks later the rate is falling and hospital admissions have remained stable. Leeds centre was already very quiet so tier 2 has had very limited impact on reducing the virus as there has been tiny changes in behaviour

This is just staggering reading...

[urlhttps://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/nov/10/nhs-test-and-trace-dido-harding-says-scheme-failed-to-predict-demand[/url

I would now question whether the expensive privatised testing system is even safe. I went for a drive in test in a supermarket car park a few months ago and was not asked about medication I was on. Got the usual nose and throat swabs, Yesterday went to an exercise class run by NHS staff. In view of medications some of us were on, they only swabbed our throats as they said nasal swabs were potentially too risky in a sports centre setting, without medical backup.

I read yesterday that Boris’ latest ‘Moonshot’ testing programme is going to cost a staggering £43 billion, being more than annual transport and policing budgets combined (although that was on Twitter, so the figure may be suspect). As things stand, it will apparently be a waste of money as only c. 5 per cent of people with positive tests are isolating. If true, the whole thing is dangerous farce that will be used as a basis for cutting all public services in future.

Without an effective testing system (and hopefully an effective vaccine), "we" will be creating a fiscal deficit which will be so bloody large that all public services will be under threat anyway.
The huge lift in public spending, coupled with massively falling tax receipts are going to leave one hell of a shortfall.

Remember, we haven't had a budget this year and it's still spend, spend, spend but, we all know that this will have to be paid down at some point and it will be interesting to see just where the tax increases come.

There was a triple lock on NI vat and Income tax, which doesnt leave a whole lot of wiggle room.
The loss of tax benefits on pension contributions will be the first "grab". but, there will need to be some extremely radical increases somewhere.

What gets me with the track and trace app, is why I don't have to sign out from somewhere.

I go to Asda at 9am and scan the QR code.
I then go to 6 other places that day and don't scan the code.

How does that track and trace me, or others, if there is a positive covid test?

You actually do need to cancel the visit on the app because if you don’t it assumes you are still in Asda.

The check-in stays active until midnight or until you check-in elsewhere does it not?

No I think you can hit the cancel button

Quote ="Scarlet Pimpernell"No I think you can hit the cancel button'" Not according to the app itself: https://faq.covid19.nhs.uk/article/KA-0 ... 35&rootid= So as I said, someone can visit multiple places that the app is unaware of because they didn't bother scanning. Hardly a world class system.

Quote ="Scarlet Pimpernell"No I think you can hit the cancel button'" Not according to the app itself: https://faq.covid19.nhs.uk/article/KA-0 ... 35&rootid= So as I said, someone can visit multiple places that the app is unaware of because they didn't bother scanning. Hardly a world class system.

My wife got a message on her phone via the app saying she had to isolate for 10 days. Why it was not 14 was explained by 111 as due to the fact that the person she was likely exposed to had a delay in their test result.


Tried to backtrack on where she had been in the relevant time period and who she may have been exposed to.

Could think of nothing.

Had no symptoms neither did I.

She requested a test and was told it was irrelevant as she would still have to isolate.

Anyway she isolates for 10 days. And got a message yesterday saying that isolation period was ending and that the good news was that “your Covid test result had come back negative”

Which was good news EXCEPT. She has not been for a Covid test.

The whole thing sounds like it was a ing error.


No money coming in for two weeks based on something that may never have been the case in the first place.


App now deleted.

Did you look into the isolation payment available?

Not on a low enough income to qualify I don’t think

Pretty shabby there DG.
The only plus is that you and your missus are ok.