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| Quote ="Rock God X"That doesn't answer my question.'"
God turned his perfect creation into a rotten, violent world as a judgment on our sin.
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| Quote ="kirkstaller"God turned his perfect creation into a rotten, violent world as a judgment on our sin.'"
Nice God you worship there.
What utter piffle.
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| Quote ="SaintsFan"Because sex is an aspect of love. It's sad that you need to ask really!
Obviously, sex can be separate from love, and all but romantic forms of love would not include sex (or at least I hope they wouldn't). But the love which I would say 99 times out of 100 is involved in marriage will include sex.'"
"I hope they wouldn't".
Why.
What business is it of yours? How do the sex lives of other consenting adults it affect you?
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| Quote ="kirkstaller"That is correct.
Animals.
The evidence that has been found in this area is evidence of an extinct species of animal not too disimilar to apes. They were not an earlier incarnation of mankind.'"
Kirkstaller, do you accept the evidence that at some point in the past your ancestors interbred with Neanderthals?
If not, would you reject the use of a paternity test (if god forbid you found evidence your wife was cheating around the time of your child's conception)? And would you refuse to use DNA evidence to convict someone who committed a crime against you? Because both of these are based on the same scientific principles that proved you are part Neanderthal, thus part animal (using your definition).
Please note, this is clearly a hypothetical question, dodging it by saying 'but my wife would never do that' will just make you look like a disingenuous troll.
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| Quote ="Mintball""I hope they wouldn't".
Why.
What business is it of yours? How do the sex lives of other consenting adults it affect you?'"
Always amazes me how obsessed many religious types are with other people's sex lives.
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| Quote ="kirkstaller"Nothing there which contradicts Genesis.'"
Other than it demonstrates real life examples of the evolution you claim is a bum theory, no.
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| Quote ="christopher"Always amazes me how obsessed many religious types are with other people's sex lives.'"
Oh, it's quite extraordinary.
I remember getting that issue drummed into me during my father's little dinner table sermonettes. Utterly obsessed.
Perhaps it's because, let's face it, few people will do anything like murder someone else, so for those obsessed with concepts of sin, you have to pick something to concentrate on that will actually affect most people.
I don't think my father has ever preached a sermon about 'thou shalt not kill', but 'the sins of the flesh' have been at the heart of a more than a few.
And then you get hilariously bonkers things like Seventh Dat Adventist John Harvey Kellogg, who created cornflakes as part of his drive to make the US vegetarian, and stop masturbation.
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| Quote ="Mintball"
And then you get hilariously bonkers things like Seventh Dat Adventist John Harvey Kellogg, who created cornflakes as part of his drive to make the US vegetarian, and stop masturbation.'"
Thank fook I stick to Weetabix and am still bashing the head off it.
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| Quote ="Mintball"
And then you get hilariously bonkers things like Seventh Dat Adventist John Harvey Kellogg, who created cornflakes as part of his drive to make the US vegetarian, and stop masturbation.'"
How do cornflakes prevent masturbation? Pack them under the foreskin, perhaps?
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| Quote ="kirkstaller"God turned his perfect creation into a rotten, violent world as a judgment on our sin.'"
So, to clarify:
'God' said, "Don't eat the apples from that special tree."
Man then ate the apples from the special tree.
God then turns some previously herbivorous animals into carnivores (presumably with concomitant adjustments to their teeth/digestive systems etc), as a judgement on the fact that the offending apple was consumed?
I don't get it. Why would altering the dietary habits of non-human species be any kind of judgement on the sins of man?
"Yeah, that'll teach you, you s, I'm gonna make this T-Rex eat a Triceratops."
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| Quote ="Rock God X"So, to clarify:
'God' said, "Don't eat the apples from that special tree."
Man then ate the apples from the special tree.
God then turns some previously herbivorous animals into carnivores (presumably with concomitant adjustments to their teeth/digestive systems etc), as a judgement on the fact that the offending apple was consumed?
I don't get it. Why would altering the dietary habits of non-human species be any kind of judgement on the sins of man?
"Yeah, that'll teach you, you s, I'm gonna make this T-Rex eat a Triceratops."'"
You forgot the talking snake. In creationist terms, when was that invented? I mean, we've now been told that animals are animals, but when did god make conversational animals, capable of tricking his top prototypes into disobeying the one poxy rule he'd made?
How smart were it's parents? Or was a human snake just a beta, which never went into production due to being a mere snake, but smarter than the unreliable made-in-god's-image production models?
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| Quote ="kirkstaller"When Adam and Eve disobeyed God, death entered the world. Before the fall there was no death.'"
And there, right there is another anomaly - that just can't be true.
You have a God who has just created a whole new world and manufactured all sorts of stuff to fill it with, and then given all of that stuff the ability to reproduce itself, which he definitely did because apparently thats in the bible too, the bit about "begatting people", but he didn't think it through, at all.
Which is unusual for a perfect being, not thinking the plan through to its logical conclusion, don't you think ?
You see I heard a statement the other day that of all the humans EVER born at ANY time in the worlds history, 20% of them are alive on earth today, one in five of every child that has ever been born is part of earths current live population.
Can you imagine what it would be like now if the other four fifths had never died ?
And all of us wandering around pointing at those red round things that grow on trees and wondering what they taste like.
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| Quote ="Ferocious Aardvark"You forgot the talking snake. In creationist terms, when was that invented? I mean, we've now been told that animals are animals, but when did god make conversational animals, capable of tricking his top prototypes into disobeying the one poxy rule he'd made?
How smart were it's parents? Or was a human snake just a beta, which never went into production due to being a mere snake, but smarter than the unreliable made-in-god's-image production models?'"
Kirkstaller will be able to fill you in. He was probably the work of the devil, or some sh[ii[/it.
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| Quote ="JerryChicken"And there, right there is another anomaly - that just can't be true.
You have a God who has just created a whole new world and manufactured all sorts of stuff to fill it with, and then given all of that stuff the ability to reproduce itself, which he definitely did because apparently thats in the bible too, the bit about "begatting people", but he didn't think it through, at all.
Which is unusual for a perfect being, not thinking the plan through to its logical conclusion, don't you think ?
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But then, if we accept that 'God' is omniscient (as the Bible would have us believe he is), he must have known that man would eat the apple before he even fashioned the poor bas[it[/iard from a lump of clay. So he created a being in his own image, gave that being a test he knew it would fail, then proceeded to punish him (and the dinosaurs) for that failure. Which means that 'God' is not only rather dim, but a bit of an unpleasant sort of chap as well.
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| Quote ="Rock God X"Kirkstaller will be able to fill you in. He was probably the work of the devil, or some sh[ii[/it.'"
He was the [iactual[/i devil. In disguise. If I remember the little of the Bible I've ever read correctly.
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| If all else fails, "he was a test of faith from the big sky man".
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| Quote ="Rock God X"How do cornflakes prevent masturbation? Pack them under the foreskin, perhaps?'"
He was a raving loon.
But it related to the theory that grains etc were godly foods and meat (flesh) was, having been produced by an act of sex, likely to make the eater think of sex.
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| Quote ="Mintball"He was a raving loon.
But it related to the theory that grains etc were godly foods and meat (flesh) was, having been produced by an act of sex, likely to make the eater think of sex.'"
what do Cheerios do? they're made of these godly foods but have a hole...
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| Quote ="Rock God X"How do cornflakes prevent masturbation? Pack them under the foreskin, perhaps?'"
I've just tried it, they go soggy with cum, as luck would have it the girl next door loves soggy cornflakes, she's eaten the lot. She's licked the platter clean.
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| Quote ="peggy"I've just tried it, they go soggy with cum, as luck would have it the girl next door loves soggy cornflakes, she's eaten the lot. She's licked the platter clean.'"
I had cereal sex with this one this morning.
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| I seem to remember Tori Amos performing Cornflake Girl wearing less than the traditional quota of underwear. Is this relevant?
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| Quote ="Ferocious Aardvark"I seem to remember Tori Amos performing Cornflake Girl wearing less than the traditional quota of underwear. Is this relevant?'"
You've got me thinking of a scantily clad Rebekah Brookes.
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| Quote ="WIZEB"eusa_hand.gif
You've got me thinking of a scantily clad Rebekah Brookes.
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I can't wait to see her in a prison uniform
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| Quote ="rover49"I can't wait to see her in a prison uniform'"
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| Quote ="WIZEB"'"
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