It all about opinions - it wouldn't do for us all to think the same - you are the same as Ghost - anyone who complains about the EU is a xenophobe, anyone who complains about Islam is a racist anyone who suggests a man in a dress is still a man is a transphobe give us a break. What could we say about Keith Vass that wouldn't offend you delicate sensitivities?

I was pointing out that Corbyn has surrounded himself with a host of women who are the face of the Labour party - in my view this is a weakness - not because they are women but because of their personality traits and how they present themselves in the media.

Out in the real world where we risk everything that in includes the roof over my head to employ people to make money and pay taxes to keep the likes of you in your cushy public sector job, don't find politicians intimidating quite the opposite a bunch of people that the vast majority have never had a job outside of politics/quangos/unions - has Corbyn ever worked in a job in the real world, same can be said of McDonald. How can these people tell businesses how to run - last week Corbyn was suggesting McDonalds pay a minimum of £15/hour - franchises would be bankrupt in 3 months. Asda made £810m on several billion of sales - it has 120k employees give them all £100 a week extra and the profits are wiped out and job losses start.

Hypocrites most of them - Phillips would stab a Tory yet cry wolf about the word humbug, Abbott wants to ban public schools yet sent her kids to public school - but in your world saying that makes you a woman hater. I have mentioned Vass he should jailed end of - sat on ethics committee another hypocrite.

I dont often agree with you but, you are right to point out the desire to pay the lowest paid staff £15 per hour.
IIRC, Corbyn also wants 16 year olds to be paid a minimum of £10.00 per hour.

Mind you, it could all be electioneering, something that we've seen plenty of from Johnson.

20 new hospitals ring any bells ?? or 20,000 ADDITIONAL police officers, both of which we know to be utter nonsense


(The 20,000 ADDITIONAL police officers cannot be achieved when you take account of the numbers retiring/leaving the force and the new hospitals I understand is now down to 5 or 6).
It seems like the Johnson lies and exaggerations during the leave campaign have just carried on.

Does he EVER tell the truth or hit his self proclaimed targets, I dont think so.

I haven’t seen any policy that advocates a £15 per hour minimum wage, I believe labours policy is £10 per hour.

Those like Sal who claim it’s not possible and will cause mass unemployment etc, these are exactly the same arguments used against bringing a minimum wage into start with, something the Conservative party unanimously opposed.

Sal you use Asda as an example, they are owned by the Walmart family who have wealth of over £100billion, they can afford to pay staff a real living wage.

The likes of Asda employing people on minimum wage are essentially getting the tax payer to pay part of their employees wages, as they claim benefits in order to survive despite working full time.

Why should the tax payer subsidise the wages paid out by billionaires? They need to be made to pay their employees a real living wage.

Journalist, overseas aid worker in West Indies for two years then back to UK and a geography teacher before becoming trade union official for NUPE.

So it's a no then

As far as I can tell he had a VERY brief stint as a local journalist aged 18 before heading to the Caribbean for 2 years at the age of 19, during which time he filled in as a geography teacher at Kingston College for a short spell.

Since returning to the UK aged 21 he's basically been a Trade Union official before becoming a politician. His only attempt at a further education failed when he left Uni after arguing with his tutors.

So no, he's never had a real job in the sense of the average person. He enjoyed a wealthy and entitled upbringing and has been a crusty ever since.

Similar to Johnson then

Journalist and then politician, spouting right wing driver all of his life, just with a little more privilege

But Johnson doesn't spout all the Marxist cobblers that Corbyn does.

That's because he doesn't actually give a damn about anyone apart from, well, Boris.
(I'm assuming that the "Marxist" tag came straight from the Telegraph ?)

Suggest you follow Corbyn on twitter

Looks like Farage may give Labour a boost after all.
It seems like Farage is now trying to pressure on Johnson to go for no deal by threatening to put candidates against the Tories in every seat if Johnson doesn't scrap his deal.

Maybe a lifeline for Jezza ?

I see big positives for the Tories if Boris sticks to his guns - bad news for Labour as he will take votes off them from the leave constituencies especially the Labour ones.

It's in fact the total opposite of what you suggest.
Farage was going to put candidates in all of the Labour held seats but, the offer was there, to not fight for Tory held seats.
With leave voters having a 50/50 choice between Farage & Boris (not a great choice, I admit), the leave vote will be split, severely damaging Boris's chances of an overall majority.
This is a huge headache for Cummings and the Tory strategists, especially when you factor in the ERG's wishes of no deal.
It would appear that, despite the disastrous likely hit to the ecconomy, the Tories may all have to shuffle even further to the right.

Very few leavers want a no deal Brexit - a few hardliners it will push the vote towards the Brexit party. Farage is despised - Boris is very popular for me its a win-win for Boris. There are what 25 in the ERG hardly a dominant force in the Tory party.

Do you have any empirical evidence about the numbers of leave voters who are single subject enough to vote that way but didn't already switch to the Tories in the 2017 election? We saw bumps in the Tory vote in a lot of places last time (less so than Labour but still a lot) so I'm curious to what degree these people actually exist (I'm sure they do, but to what extent?).

The most likely scenario is the Tory vote falls by less than the Labour one, which will give them the advantage in plenty of constituencies; but will it be enough to offset their almost certain losses in the SW, Scotland and London? Even a 10 point Tory lead may see them barely scrape a majority; it all depends on the vote distribution.

Comedy gold right there Sal, absolutely hilarious.
It's the ERG that did for Mrs May and have held their party to ransom.

As for "no deal", I think this is where we are heading if, either Farage wins a number of seats or, looks like threatening a Tory majority.
When you hear people bemoaning the fact that we havent left yet, a fair proportion do seem to want no deal.
Again, they appear to have been taken in by Farage's rhetoric but, I'm sure that they all fully understand exactly what they want



Remember, with a majority in single figures, it really doesn't take much to hold the government to ransom and those driving Brexit from within the Tory Party DO want no deal or, as close as they can get to that position.

Wake up and smell the coffee.

Didn't 200+ Labour MPs vote against May's deal 3 times or did I imagine that?

Farage hasn't been able to win a seat yet - he is no liked or trusted. Brexit might take some seats of Labour which will help but if the polls are correct and stay the way they are then Boris will not need him. Its a bit like remainers - they think the EU will remain exactly as it is now and our relationship with the EU will be exactly as it is - sadly we all know that will not be the case - as you say "wake up and smell the coffee"

How did Johnson vote? Interesting if you view that as disqualifying.

Ridiculously, the political party’s most in favour of staying in the EU (Lib Dem and Green) will probably enable Brexit.

The Brexit vote will be split 2 ways between Conservatives and Brexit Party.

The remain vote will be split 3 ways between Labour, Lib Dem and Green.
In Scotland/Wales the remain vote is split 4 ways.

How can Jo Swinson and Caroline Lucas justify that when their whole campaign is based on staying in the EU.

Surely they should be standing down their candidates where they are a distant 3rd or 4th

If Labour had voted for the deal it would have gone through - even you can't try and deflect that

May's deal had all the protections they wanted and they still voted against it?

Not sure whose narrative you're repeating but the bipartisan deal was never brought to the floor of the house.

May's deal had protection of workers rights and environmental in line with EU standards

It's all going so well for the Tories; highlights this week include Michael Gove using a fake Twitter account to amplify false claims of AS against Momentum: the party machine doctoring a video of Keir Starmer to create fake news: the Tories supressing the publication of a report about Russian interference in the EU referendum; Boris Johnson & Gove being referred to the CPS over the criminality of Vote Leave; and best of all, Jacob Rees-Mogg saying on LBC that the people who died in the Grenfell fire did so because they lacked common sense - made worse by the demonic dwarf Andrew Bridgen doubling down on that, by saying that clever people like Jacob, who definitely wouldn't die in a fire because he'd make his own escape arrangements, are in charge precisely *because* of that death by incineration avoiding brand of cleverness.

Dom must be chuffed to bits.

The scary thing is, he probably is, and so are his disciples. They either spend hours trying to debunk what everyone else has seen and heard with their own eyes and ears, or they use it to say the liberal/leftist media are ganging up on them, and they are in fact the victims in all of this. It's all going to plan.

The Tories are getting all their skeletons out of the cupboard now and hoping to minimise the impact. To me they have hit the ground walking whilst Labour have hit the ground running. Labour have two big issues - financial credibility - whatever you say about austerity one thing you can't say is the Tories have been profligate with the monies and Corbyn.