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| Quote ="XBrettKennyX"If people are so weak that they wish to commit suicide then that's their decision.
Have you ever experienced the "real world"? I suspect not.
If you honestly think that ANYONE in the UK can claim true poverty, then I suggest you visit SE Asia, Africa or South America. There you will see TRUE poverty.
Frankly the attitude of many in the UK is nothing short of pathetic.'"
See, the attitude and real character of a person surfaces eventually.
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| Quote ="XBrettKennyX"If people are so weak that they wish to commit suicide then that's their decision.'"
Sums you up better than anything anyone else can say about you.
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| Quote ="XBrettKennyX"
I would look for inefficiency first. Look at the back office/admin staff. I understand the need for equity, but must we staff our local authorities with people with an IQ of less than 100?
Cut the waste, employ decent people. There are enough on the dole atm.
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You see, thats exactly the sort of generalisation that I asked you not to indulge in earlier - who are these admin or "back office" staff who are doing nothing all day long and drawing wages of £60k and do you really thin that they exist outside of your imagination ?
The truth is that your attitude is showing through now - admin staff drawing high wages for nothing with an IQ of less than 100 ?
And why would you "cut the waste, employ decent people" surely if these jobs are not required then you wouldn't need to fill them again after you'd got rid of the £60k, less than 100 IQ wasters ?
Quote Then of course there is the efficient spending of money. Instead of building pointless "speed bumps" and ridiculous roundabouts, errecting silly signs that no-one cares about, then whinging about "Government cuts", maybe spend the money on things such as refuse collection, street cleaning and lighting?'"
Pointless speed bumps
Ridiculous roundabouts
Silly signs
You're a spambot for the Daily Mail aren't you ?
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| Quote ="JerryChicken"You see, thats exactly the sort of generalisation that I asked you not to indulge in earlier - who are these admin or "back office" staff who are doing nothing all day long and drawing wages of £60k and do you really thin that they exist outside of your imagination ?
The truth is that your attitude is showing through now - admin staff drawing high wages for nothing with an IQ of less than 100 ?
And why would you "cut the waste, employ decent people" surely if these jobs are not required then you wouldn't need to fill them again after you'd got rid of the £60k, less than 100 IQ wasters ?
Pointless speed bumps
Ridiculous roundabouts
Silly signs
You're a spambot for the Daily Mail aren't you ?'"
Did you not follow the link?
That position was advertised paying £60k.
As for cutting jobs, well tbh from my experience, you could cull half the jobs in local authorities quite easily. Replace them with hard working people from the private sector and away you go.
However, I see the usual left wing clique has formed and no doubt will give itself a large pat on the back as ultimately those who debate to the contrary get bored and post elsewhere.......
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| Quote ="Hull White Star"I think I haved lived more in the real world than you my friend judging by your appalling ideas and attitudes.
I'm not going to reveal mr hws wages but more than the average in hull but less than national.average.
People are really losing their homes people are really having rely on food banks, that's the real world my friend.'"
Nor would I expect you to.
However, it does render your £3500 p.a. figure [umeaningless [/uwouldn't you agree?
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| Quote ="Him"See, the attitude and real character of a person surfaces eventually.'"
It certainly is my character.
If someone in the UK thinks they are affected by poverty to the extent that they want to commit suicide then that's their issue.
There are NO people in the UK who experience real poverty (unless you define poverty as not being to be able to afford the Movies as well as Sports on Sky)
Compare the whinging scroungers in the UK to people around the world in REAL poverty (who often do not complain at all in my experience) and I rest my case.
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| Why is it meaningless? My point is you said you would revise public sector pensions and I was pointing out they are not as good as you think so by cutting them you would put more people in poverty but thats your typical tory tack anyway.
You still haven't given us the figures for benefit underpayments yet either like I asked. Again typical tories, half truths and spin.
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| Quote ="XBrettKennyX"Did you not follow the link?
That position was advertised paying £60k.
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I did and this is what it said:
[iJob Details
Associate - HR Diversity Consultant
Ref O00070
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Job Family Human Resources
Division HR
Unfortunately, the job you are looking for is no longer being advertised.[/i
And?
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| Quote ="XBrettKennyX"It certainly is my character.
If someone in the UK thinks they are affected by poverty to the extent that they want to commit suicide then that's their issue.
There are NO people in the UK who experience real poverty (unless you define poverty as not being to be able to afford the Movies as well as Sports on Sky)
Compare the whinging scroungers in the UK to people around the world in REAL poverty (who often do not complain at all in my experience) and I rest my case.'"
Have you discovered how much wasteful labour spending there was yet? Or are you just going to spout more reactionary Daily Mail headlines whilst knowing f all about it?
I'm willing to accept people have different views on how a country should be run, I don't agree with them but accept people have different views. You, however, are just heartless, thoughtless scum. The fact you categorically state there are no people in poverty in the UK and your comments on suicide and disability shows all that anyone needs to know about you.
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| Quote ="Hull White Star"Why is it meaningless? My point is you said you would revise public sector pensions and I was pointing out they are not as good as you think so by cutting them you would put more people in poverty but thats your typical tory tack anyway.
You still haven't given us the figures for benefit underpayments yet either like I asked. Again typical tories, half truths and spin.'"
Oh deary deary me.
It's meaningless since without knowing what his salary was, we cannot ascertain the relative worth of the pensionable earnings that you quoted.
I'm sorry but I can't make it any clearer.
Oh and for the record I haven't disclosed if and who I support politically.
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| I made it easy for you read again. Are you going to tell us the under payments figure from the dwp or are you going to stick your head in the sand?
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| I made it easy for you read again. Are you going to tell us the under payments figure from the dwp or are you going to stick your head in the sand?
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| Quote ="Hull White Star"I made it easy for you read again. Are you going to tell us the under payments figure from the dwp or are you going to stick your head in the sand?'"
What on earth are you babbling on about?
What a ridiculous question.
The only people who truly know that are government officials.
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| Quote ="XBrettKennyX"Did you not follow the link?
That position was advertised paying £60k.
As for cutting jobs, well tbh from my experience, you could cull half the jobs in local authorities quite easily. Replace them with hard working people from the private sector and away you go.
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Yes, its an expired post but from the scant details that remain it was for an HR post in the FSA, thats the FSA that are an independent non-governmental body financed by the financial services industry as a controlling body and given statutory powers.
Quite WTF that has to do with your argument I don't know, but maybe you could enlighten us as to why you think £60k is a lot of money for an HR post in a private company ?
But hey, you know better, after all you have "personal experience" of at least 50% of all the jobs in local authorities being occupied by wasters with IQs of less than 100 - again quite how much money you;d save by getting rid of those people and replacing them with other people I don't really know - maybe you could enlighten us all as to how this financial formula works - maybe its time to write to George Osborne and give him a few pointers ?
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| Read the document you quoted.
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| Quote ="JerryChicken"Yes, its an expired post but from the scant details that remain it was for an HR post in the FSA, thats the FSA that are an independent non-governmental body financed by the financial services industry as a controlling body and given statutory powers.
Quite WTF that has to do with your argument I don't know, but maybe you could enlighten us as to why you think £60k is a lot of money for an HR post in a private company ?
But hey, you know better, after all you have "personal experience" of at least 50% of all the jobs in local authorities being occupied by wasters with IQs of less than 100 - again quite how much money you;d save by getting rid of those people and replacing them with other people I don't really know - maybe you could enlighten us all as to how this financial formula works - maybe its time to write to George Osborne and give him a few pointers ?'"
Awww you think the FSA wasn't controlled by the Government. How quaint......
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| Quote ="XBrettKennyX"Awww you think the FSA wasn't controlled by the Government. How quaint......'"
I don't quite know how to break this to you other than to click your expired link, then click the "Home" button and read the bit that says "About Us" - the FSA are a private company, privately funded but with legal powers to control their own industry, they go to great lengths to distance themselves from any form of government and make that very clear in their "About Us" page.
So,
WTF has an HR job advertised on a private company's web site got to do with your argument that public servants are overpaid ?
Admit it, you went fishing for more of your "Facts" and you dredged up a duff one, again.
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| Quote ="JerryChicken"I don't quite know how to break this to you other than to click your expired link, then click the "Home" button and read the bit that says "About Us" - the FSA are a private company, privately funded but with legal powers to control their own industry, they go to great lengths to distance themselves from any form of government and make that very clear in their "About Us" page.
So,
WTF has an HR job advertised on a private company's web site got to do with your argument that public servants are overpaid ?
Admit it, you went fishing for more of your "Facts" and you dredged up a duff one, again.'"
Haha it gets better!
You truly believe that the FSA is a standalone private company with no government influence?
e.g. appointing board members maybe?
Yes it was funded via what is effectively a tax, but if you think ............nevermind. Join the queue with the rest of the sheep.
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| Quote ="XBrettKennyX"Dear me. Threats of murder? I'm sure that's against the AUP no?'"
If it was a threat then yes, it would be against the AUP.
It isn't a threat though.
I do hope you are not going to be one of these lilly-livered right-wingers who goes off crying that everyone has ganged up on him when he displays his vile right-wing views.
So far you are showing all the hallmarks.
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| Quote ="Big Graeme"If it was a threat then yes, it would be against the AUP.
It isn't a threat though.
I do hope you are not going to be one of these lilly-livered right-wingers who goes off crying that everyone has ganged up on him when he displays his vile right-wing views.
So far you are showing all the hallmarks.'"
It wasn't a threat? Hmm I could have sworn that the poster wanted to "slit my throat".
An expected reply from you as head of the clique though.
I suspect your reply is tinged with alcohol? "Vile"? Emotive language..............
Nah, don't worry, it will take more than a bunch of illiterate Left Wingers, who believe that numbers translate into reality, to make me cry.
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| Quote ="XBrettKennyX"It wasn't a threat? Hmm I could have sworn that the poster wanted to "slit my throat".'"
I suggest you read the post again then.
If you disagree with that decision you can contact a member of admin who will review the decision.
Quote ="XBrettKennyX"An expected reply from you as head of the clique though.'"
Quote ="XBrettKennyX"I suspect your reply is tinged with alcohol? "Vile"? Emotive language..............
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Stone cold sober mate, next.
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| Didn't Cod'ead reply to ajw?
Can anyone remember what AUP 2.2 states? I can't quite remember but for some reason I feel it may be relevant.
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| Quote ="Him"Didn't Cod'ead reply to ajw?
Can anyone remember what AUP 2.2 states? I can't quite remember but for some reason I feel it may be relevant.'"
2.2. Public criticism of the moderation process is prohibited.
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| It seems it was aimed at me. For what reason, I don't know.
Seems strange that someone would randomly want to cut my throat, but anyway each to their own.
I've reported said post.
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| Quote ="Him"Didn't Cod'ead reply to ajw?
Can anyone remember what AUP 2.2 states? I can't quite remember but for some reason I feel it may be relevant.'"
He did.
My mistake.
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