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| Quote ="Wanderer"Don't know how you managed it but you've posted in the future!
I've quoted a post not due to be made for 47 minutes!
See below.
Should interest the Admins.'"
Wonder where this one will go ....
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| Quote ="Wanderer"Quote ="Rock God X"And that having a role in policy making equates to having no influence.'"
Don't know how you managed it but you've posted in the future!
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It must be a sign! Praise Jesus!
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| Quote ="Wanderer"Don't know how you managed it but you've posted in the future!
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Quote ="Rock God X"It must be a sign! Praise Jesus!'"
... and again!
This is going to get messy
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| There is a God.
It's Rock God.
Get it on the curriculum sharpish.
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| Quote ="Rock God X"It must be a sign! Praise Jesus!'"
Can you also confirm that Trap 6 is going to win the 17:22 at Romford, o time lord?
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| Quote ="Ferocious Aardvark"Quote ="Rock God X"It must be a sign! Praise Jesus!'"
Can you also confirm that Trap 6 is going to win the 17:22 at Romford, o time lord?'"
I won't have time tonight. Got tickets to see Elvis' 1968 comeback special.
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| =#0040BFRomford BAGS 12/01/2012
17.22 (Off: 5:24:42)
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=#FF00001st [size=150=#FF4040Trap 6[/size =#FFBF40Fabulous Lauren, at a very tasty [size=1509/2[/size
=#00FF00Kerching!!
Conclusive proof that Rock truly is a God
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| Bless you, my children.
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| Atheism definitely confirmed.
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| [url=http://www.secularism.org.uk/news/2012/01/government-takes-action-to-combat-creationism-in-free-schoolsYes![/url
[url=http://www.secularism.org.uk/news/2012/01/opus-dei-to-open-new-catholic-schoolsAnd in other, related news: more schools for the children of the Ruth Kellys of this world.[/url
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| Quote ="Mintball"
[url=http://www.secularism.org.uk/news/2012/01/opus-dei-to-open-new-catholic-schoolsAnd in other, related news: more schools for the children of the Ruth Kellys of this world.[/url'"
Quote The secretive, sinister and extremely wealthy Catholic organisation Opus Dei - originally started by supporters of the fascist Franco regime in Spain - is sponsoring two secondary schools to open in Britain by September 2013.'"
If money is the root of all evil, is it just a coincidence that religious groups always seem to be awash with the stuff?
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| Quote ="Rock God X"If money is the root of all evil, is it just a coincidence that religious groups always seem to be awash with the stuff?'"
It rather amuses me that they do seem to ignore that stuff about camels and eyes of needles.
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| Quote ="Mintball"It rather amuses me that they do seem to ignore that stuff about camels and eyes of needles.'"
If only they took such a blase attitude towards homosexuality.
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| Oh, but [ithat's[/i important!
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| Quote ="Mintball"[url=http://www.secularism.org.uk/news/2012/01/government-takes-action-to-combat-creationism-in-free-schoolsYes![/url
[url=http://www.secularism.org.uk/news/2012/01/opus-dei-to-open-new-catholic-schoolsAnd in other, related news: more schools for the children of the Ruth Kellys of this world.[/url'"
And what does this mean if not indoctrination?
"[iit is announced that they will be "run with a distinctive Catholic ethos according to the charism of Opus Dei". The organisation will provide the chaplain, RE teachers and "doctrinal spiritual advice[/i".
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| "Why do secularists feel threatened by religious belief?" © SaintsFan
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| Quote ="Mintball"[url=http://www.secularism.org.uk/news/2012/01/government-takes-action-to-combat-creationism-in-free-schoolsYes![/url'"
That certainly offers some hope that Intelligent Design will be kept out of free schools science classes. However, I wouldn't put it beyond creationist pressure groups trying to have the same strengths and weaknesses of evolution arguments inserted in the science curriculum that similar groups in America do.
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Quite how the catholic church can be deemed fit and proper to run a school is beyond me. Has it not been clearly shown that when the poop hits the fan, they put their own reputation before all other considerations.
I wouldn't trust them to run a bath.
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| Quote ="Neil"That certainly offers some hope that Intelligent Design will be kept out of free schools science classes. However, I wouldn't put it beyond creationist pressure groups trying to have the same strengths and weaknesses of evolution arguments inserted in the science curriculum that similar groups in America do...'"
Indeed. It's but a battle in the greater war.
Quote ="Neil"Quite how the catholic church can be deemed fit and proper to run a school is beyond me. Has it not been clearly shown that when the poop hits the fan, they put their own reputation before all other considerations...'"
Indeed.
Quote ="Neil"I wouldn't trust them to run a bath.'"
I like that. I may have to borrow it.
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| [url=http://www.independent.co.uk/opinion/leading-articles/leading-article-an-establishment-dilemma-6290191.htmlIt seems that the CofE want all the benefits of establishment, but none of the responsibilities.[/url
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| Quote ="Rock God X"[url=http://www.independent.co.uk/opinion/leading-articles/leading-article-an-establishment-dilemma-6290191.htmlIt seems that the CofE want all the benefits of establishment, but none of the responsibilities.[/url'"
Frankly, I don't think the CofE knows what it wants.
It seems unable to resolve any issue with anything other than a wobbly fudge.
But I know what I want ... Disestablishment NOW !
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| For anyone who's interested:
[url=http://www.humanism.org.uk/news/view/965A small victory.[/url
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| So, church schools are not quite as inclusive as they'd have us believe then?
[url=http://www.guardian.co.uk/education/2012/mar/05/church-schools-shun-poorest-pupilsChurch schools shun poorest pupils[/url
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| Quote ="Mintball"Indeed. But setting aside that, why is faith itself held in such esteem or with such respect?
Serious question, BTW – to which I do not personally know the answer, even having had faith myself for much of my life.'"
You're a socialist who lives with a socialist and you DON'T know the answer to this question?
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| I thought I'd resurect this thread rather than start a new one.
[url=http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2012/apr/25/catholic-church-schools-gay-marriageA story about the ****ing Catholic Church trying to indoctrinate children[/url
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| My girlfriend attended catholic high school, and is still at sixth form there (sixth form is officially completely church free, but isn't really as it's all the same staff and building). She's not Catholic as, I believe, every religious school has to let a few students of different faiths in. The way she was spoken to/treat by the Catholic teachers was atrocious, she was heckled in RE for openly admitting being an atheist, was glared at by students and staff alike when she had to approach the front at the termly mass with a hand across her shoulder to show she wasn't baptised(or something like that). Every science lesson also ended with "scientists say this but we know if they are right, God made it happen" The way they treat kids in general isn't good either, results driven with no regard for a childs happiness. The motto of a catholic school on The Simpsons comes to mind; "Jesus suffered for our sins, now it's your turn".
All in all, I don't agree with religion in the classroom as it usually attempts to blur or blatantly disregard the truth. I haven't read the whole thread but I did read a few of the linked articles on the first page. speaking as a college student studying physics and chemistry, that one by the head of a science department is genuinely scary. Did he buy his degree online?
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