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| Quote ="Ajw71""Israel kills kids for no reason"- wow the standard of 'debate' on rlfans really is something else these days.'"
So what is the reason for killing kids? If your argument is "i read in the daily mail that some kid threw a pebble at a soldier so he deserved to get shot in the head" don't brother replying
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| Quote ="wire-quin"In this world of internet, cameras etc does this really happen and is it for Fun?
I've worked in Israel and found it a great place. Very first world.'"
Put it this way. In the past 2 weeks I have seen videos of 6 kids being murderef by the IDF for no reason. You can declare you don't believe me which is fair enough if all you watch is the main stream media who won't report it as they lost too much. Delve a little deeper and you will uncover a world you never knew existed. Sorry, I said no reason. They may have been guilty of throwing a pebble at some one because they were frustrated that Isreal demolished their house illegally which obviously meant they were untitled to receive a snipers bullet to the head. This may be OTT but given the people I know out there and the research I have undertaken, anyone who thinks Isreal is in the right are stupid. There is absolutely no reason to justify What Isreal have been doing for the past 40 years. Bombing hospitals full of kids, destroying people houses for lolz. Despicable. I hope Putin nukes Isreal for a laugh such is my distain for that country
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| And the fact that the U.S. Abstained is historic! Last time the UN voted against Isreal, the U.S. Vetoed the vote At last the opinion of those Zionist w******* are changing
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| I see the professional victims are now upset over this. I also notice that they try to join the bandwagon when other situations occur concerning people's around the world crying don't forget about us.
Whilst what happened to the group pigeonholed by thought was a stain on the human race as a whole, their attitude at times is incongruous to they want people to love them whilst they hate others.
The only aspect of this situation,IMO, is that ignorance is winning hands down.
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Quote I've lived there, and in very close communities with Israeli people and have some very close friends.
Some of those very close friends also owned a lot of high powered weaponry, had to spend a month every year until they were fifty, after two years from eighteen in the IDF and had very dubious attitudes towards anyone of a Palestinian background.
Hey, very "First World", so all OK then.'"
You make it sound like conscription is exclusive to Israel
www.globalsecurity.org/military/ ... iption.htm
Have a look at the number 1 country in the world for 'another' country where weapons are freely available.
Dubious attitudes to others isn't unique to Israel
In summary what are you actually saying. Israel is like lots of other 1st world countries
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Quote I've lived there, and in very close communities with Israeli people and have some very close friends.
Some of those very close friends also owned a lot of high powered weaponry, had to spend a month every year until they were fifty, after two years from eighteen in the IDF and had very dubious attitudes towards anyone of a Palestinian background.
Hey, very "First World", so all OK then.'"
You make it sound like conscription is exclusive to Israel
www.globalsecurity.org/military/ ... iption.htm
Have a look at the number 1 country in the world for 'another' country where weapons are freely available.
Dubious attitudes to others isn't unique to Israel
In summary what are you actually saying. Israel is like lots of other 1st world countries
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| Quote ="Dally"What utter nonsense. What do you mean by "as told"?'"
As i said 99.9% of people believe what they are TOLD about the Holocaust without giving it a second thought. Only after researching the topic in great detail you learn what really happened. Look for yourself and you shall find. The Jews and Zionists in particular are happy for you to believe what you are TOLD and to do as you are TOLD. I will not be TOLD by anyone.
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| Quote ="tigerman1231"As i said 99.9% of people believe what they are TOLD about the Holocaust without giving it a second thought. Only after researching the topic in great detail you learn what really happened. Look for yourself and you shall find. The Jews and Zionists in particular are happy for you to believe what you are TOLD and to do as you are TOLD. I will not be TOLD by anyone.'"
What have we been TOLD and what have I been my
missing? I have visited many sites of atrocities, especially in Poland, read books on the subject including on the psychology of concentration camps, seen films, etc, etc. What am I missing that you gave knowledge of? Simple question.
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| Quote ="Dally"What have we been TOLD and what have I been my
Using? I have visited many sites of atrocities, especially in Poland, read books on the subject including on the psychology of concentration camps, seen films, etc, etc. What am I missing that you gave knowledge of? Simple question.'"
Well to my knowledge they have tried to tell me 11,000,000 humans (mainly Jews) were 'killed' by the Nazis during the Holocaust, mainly via the 'gas chambers'. Load of b**llocks. Dont know what you have been told as only you know. 'Atrocities' ha ha you must be part of the 99.9% that believe everything that is told to them.
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| Quote ="tigerman1231"As i said 99.9% of people believe what they are TOLD about the Holocaust without giving it a second thought. Only after researching the topic in great detail you learn what really happened. Look for yourself and you shall find. The Jews and Zionists in particular are happy for you to believe what you are TOLD and to do as you are TOLD. I will not be TOLD by anyone.'"
So you have read some websites who have TOLD you different.
You have been TOLD. Rather ironic.
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| Quote ="tigerman1231"Well to my knowledge they have tried to tell me 11,000,000 humans (mainly Jews) were 'killed' by the Nazis during the Holocaust, mainly via the 'gas chambers'. Load of b**llocks. Dont know what you have been told as only you know. 'Atrocities' ha ha you must be part of the 99.9% that believe everything that is told to them.'"
Don't know where you get your figure from but whatever the figure -where have you been TOLD that all those thriving Jewish communities of much of Europe, especially the East, magically relocated to? In Castleford are they?
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| Quote ="tigerman1231"As i said 99.9% of people believe what they are TOLD about the Holocaust without giving it a second thought. Only after researching the topic in great detail you learn what really happened. Look for yourself and you shall find. The Jews and Zionists in particular are happy for you to believe what you are TOLD and to do as you are TOLD. I will not be TOLD by anyone.'"
I'll tell you: you're a feckin gullible prize idiot.
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| I'm still shocked that even in this thread, people are pro Isreal. I would really love to know why. "Because I listen to the BBC and Fox News isn't a valid reason. Since 2006 over 5000 children have died because isreal have demolished/blown up houses in the West Bank that contravened international law. Dally, I know you have a hard on for what the daily mail tells you but I hate to tell you, hardly anything they print is factual.
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| Quote ="Lebron James"I'm still shocked that even in this thread, people are pro Isreal. I would really love to know why. "Because I listen to the BBC and Fox News isn't a valid reason. Since 2006 over 5000 children have died because isreal have demolished/blown up houses in the West Bank that contravened international law. Dally, I know you have a hard on for what the daily mail tells you but I hate to tell you, hardly anything they print is factual.
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You'd have a tad more credibility than the zero you have if you did not consistently mis-spell the name of the country you vehemently criticise.
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| Quote ="Cronus"I'll tell you: you're a feckin gullible prize idiot.'"
OK then...... So i take it you a part of the postage stamp consensus. I think you will find that the 99.9% that i speak of are the gullible ones.
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| I'm pro-Israel in an existential sense, but very much against some of the policies pursued by their government.
I support the Palestinian aspiration for a viable state of their, but I'm under no illusions about their hardline elements.
The aggression on both sides comes, I imagine, from feeling threatened. It's not an excuse, but it's understandable.
The US, IMO has acted as an enabler for some dangerous Israeli policies - dangerous to hopes of peace and freedom, as fragile as those hopes are anyway. And this little warning sign will soon be torn down by Trump.
US power is waning, and will likely wane faster under Trump. Maybe a changing world will facilitate changes there.
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| Quote ="Dally"You'd have a tad more credibility than the zero you have if you did not consistently mis-spell the name of the country you vehemently criticise.'"
Good one. The best argument you can come up with is that is that my spelling isn't perfect. I used to use that as an argument when I was twelve too . You haven't tried to dispute anything I've said by using facts because you know I'm correct in what I claim so it's impossible so resort to insults like all juveniles do
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| Quote ="tigerman1231"OK then...... So i take it you a part of the postage stamp consensus. I think you will find that the 99.9% that i speak of are the gullible ones.'"
You've read something you soaked up like a gullible little sponge, and now you've convinced it's reality. You call it "research" but in reality I would guess you've read a few websites - at most a book or two. Not true research, simply absorbing ideas dreamt up by someone else. Now you're certain you're on to something 99% of the world aren't aware of and that gives you a sense of smug satisfaction and the illusion you're somehow more intelligent and superior than everyone else. This probably covers for mild personality disorders...perhaps a lack of self-esteem masked by a degree of narcissism. Getting close, am I?
Unfortunately for you, there's something called "hugely overwhelming and empirical evidence" which you will of course choose to ignore that but nevertheless still exists. The Holocaust was a huge event in human history, with millions of witnesses and masses of evidence, and effects that continue to ripple today. Yet 60 years later and 5 minutes on a website and you're convinced it's a fraud.
It's bit like those who 'don't believe' scientific theory such as evolution: it doesn't really matter whether you believe it or not. I might as well say I don't believe in gravity or that Wigan won the Grand Final in October.
Unless you post your "evidence" (something your type NEVER do, for obvious reasons ), I'm afraid you're just another deluded conspiracy moron and I'll continue to laugh at your gullibility.
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| I've got nothing against Israel at all can't be easy surrounded on all sides by people who hate you gives you a sort of siege mentally but I watching a Storyville doc on the football team Beiter Jerusalem you certainly get a different take on the people and there hatred
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| Quote ="Lebron James"Good one. The best argument you can come up with is that is that my spelling isn't perfect. I used to use that as an argument when I was twelve too . You haven't tried to dispute anything I've said by using facts because you know I'm correct in what I claim so it's impossible so resort to insults like all juveniles do
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Your spelling of such a key word is relevant in this particular instance - it tangibly demonstrates your lack of knowledge and 'research' of the subject. If you had read widely you could not have made that mistake given that the rest of your spelling is largely accurate.
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| It is the 13th anniversary of the death of Tom Hurndall. Tom was a 22 year old student who travelled to Gaza . A group of primary school age children came under Israeli fire (after all that's how israelis get their kicks). Most of the children ran but a few froze with fear. Tom rushed in and got one to safety. As he went back to get another he was shot in the head by an Israeli sniper and died.
It came out in court that Israeli soldiers are allowed to shoot civilians with impunity and as such, got off with the lesser charge of manslaughter. Toms legal team were denied the evidence in which to build their case and the UK foreign office only got involved due to demonstrations from the British public. After all, we wouldn't want to jeopardise our arms deals would we? Probably a British made bullet that killed him
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| Quote ="Lebron James"It is the 13th anniversary of the death of Tom Hurndall. Tom was a 22 year old student who travelled to Gaza . A group of primary school age children came under Israeli fire (after all that's how israelis get their kicks). Most of the children ran but a few froze with fear. Tom rushed in and got one to safety. As he went back to get another he was shot in the head by an Israeli sniper and died.
It came out in court that Israeli soldiers are allowed to shoot civilians with impunity and as such, got off with the lesser charge of manslaughter. Toms legal team were denied the evidence in which to build their case and the UK foreign office only got involved due to demonstrations from the British public. After all, we wouldn't want to jeopardise our arms deals would we? Probably a British made bullet that killed himz
RIP
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Live by the sword die by the sword innit?
It's just as easy to get pumped full of lead by the powers that be in Rafah as it is on junction 24 of the M62.
You can be a 'stud badboy' or a volunteer for the International Solidarity Movement, truth is, their families and loved ones will never be able to hold them, feel them or touch them ever again.
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| Quote ="WIZEB"Live by the sword die by the sword innit?
It's just as easy to get pumped full of lead by the powers that be in Rafah as it is on junction 24 of the M62.
You can be a 'stud badboy' or a volunteer for the International Solidarity Movement, truth is, their families and loved ones will never be able to hold them, feel them or touch them ever again.'"
Totally agree. Death is tragic. Doesn't matter if you are a known drug dealer who got off with a murder charge and carried illegal weapons to scare the community and flood said community with narcotics, ruining people's lives, or an activist with a moral compass who wanted to stand up against the Zionist states illegal land grab and slaughter of innocent children.
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| A white bag of powder in the boot of your motor or fluttering a white handkerchief as you try to cart a body to safety over rubble strewn debris.
Guess what? You're eulogising won't make any difference now.
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| Quote ="WIZEB"A white bag of powder in the boot of your motor or fluttering a white handkerchief as you try to cart a body to safety over rubble strewn debris.
Guess what? You're eulogising won't make any difference now.'"
Too right m8. In 13 years time I'm sure people will remember the death of "stud badboy".
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| Quote ="Mild Rover"I'm pro-Israel in an existential sense, but very much against some of the policies pursued by their government.
I support the Palestinian aspiration for a viable state of their, but I'm under no illusions about their hardline elements.
The aggression on both sides comes, I imagine, from feeling threatened. It's not an excuse, but it's understandable.
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A question: if your country was wiped off the map and families of hundreds of years displaced into a giant concentration camp, and then continuously occupied for decades, would you expect no 'hardline elements ' to develop? Would you expect no aggression in retaliation? The difference is that the Palestinian side has no sophisticated military equipment at all - Israel does, and just loves using it on defenceless people.
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