Given that the next big tournament at St Andrews is a womens event, but they can't be members, it's all a bit odd.

The latter must be devious if she is cleverer than herself.

The Carlton Club is a favoured haunt of senior politicians, bankers, old stockbrokers and captains of industry. It has always held a firm Men-only policy, apart from the time it conferred "honorary member" status on Thatcher. I've no idea whether she availed herself of the privilege but I firmly believe excluding private members' clubs from sex-discrimination legislation was a deliberate act by the sort of 2@s who habit such dens of iniquity

Our coach to the semi-final to support [iOld Faithful[/i is strictly men only and for that I make no excuses.

Groucho Marx summed that sort of thing nicely I believe

The Old Course at St Andrews? If that is the one you mean you need to check your facts.



It is a public course on common land, there are no members.

yup, you do

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Nope, mine are right, but I'm not relying (and not reading the page properly) on Wiki for my arguments

I take an opposite but yet complementary view to that gentleman.
Whereas he wouldn't want to join any club that would have him as a member, I like the idea that all the reactionary old farts are holed-up together somewhere where I wouldn't want to go.
Whether those farts are men or women, the same applies.

Since when did it become the norm for women in power to ram rampant feminism down everybody's throats? Inverdale, as we all know, is a bit of a twunt, but he's apologised and been dealt with by his employer. Done, finished with.

Yeah. 'Cos it's not like there are any men 'in power' any more, and they aren't 'ramming' policies that impact particularly negatively on women down anyone's throats, even though they were not elected on the basis of most of said policies, oh no!

If you think this is rampant feminism then you need to get out more.

I can think of a few people who'd terrify the bejesus out of him.

Are we adding Le Tour to the discussion now?

Now Harman is pushing for a womens version of Le Tour. Feminist

You use the word feminist like its a bad thing.



What's wrong this a female tour style event?

Or more to the point, does Harriet Harman not know that womens professional cycling is very strong across Europe and that the likes of last years Olympic silver medalist Lizzie Armitstead has raced professionally for Dutch teams for several years now - there is already sufficient resources for organisations to arrange a large tour type race if they so wanted without necessarily badgering the Le Tour organisers.

Quite... that woman is so keen to leap onto feminist bandwagons, she doesn't notice that the band is gigging somewhere else quite happily.
I bet you remember Beryl Burton ?

Beryl Burton - we used to always stop on our cycling jaunts in a cafe in Gargrave that was a shrine to her

He probably met her

Encountered her once in the line of business. Cold doesn't come close. Wouldn't trust her further than I could throw her.

On the general 'feminist' stuff, a lot of what gets coverage these days (which is far from the only feminist angle on things, irrespective of how much it's presented as such) is so lacking in any form of intellectual rigour that's it's embarrassing.

Mind, that's pretty much in keeping with much that's spouted in politics these days.

It is when it becomes excessive, turning everything that is aimed at men into 'oh that's sexist'. (though i never understood the McCoys being 'Man Crisps', or Yorkies apparently being not for girls. That seems like alienating potential customers to me.) The amount of trivial things i've seen on Twitter posted under the guise of that new worldwide craze 'Everyday Sexism' is truly hilarious. Asda selling only blue Angry Birds T-shirts is apparently sexist, as is a girls t-shirt that says 'when i grow up i want to marry a Prince'. Hardly sexist, more like lazy-ar*ed marketing. There's now a woman who wants all lads mags banned as they ''send out the wrong messages'', (because womens beauty mags don't do that do they? Nor do trash magazines like Hello who, 2 days after Kate gave birth, were interested in her post-baby weight-loss routine), and can cause violence towards women. Can they? Really? Any evidence of that? I doubt it. Co-Op wants Zoo & Nuts et all to be in brown envelopes to protect children, if they must, then fine.

Anybody remember that song by Alicia's Attic, that had the line 'I feel like i wanna smash his face in. Yeah, that'd be fun!''. I want it banned off the radio......... ASAP

There are so may reasons to stop selling "lags mags" that you could choose any one of them I don't remember Cosmo or heat having pics of fellas lunchboxes mind.

If Co-Op are that bothered about the effect of bare flesh on their magazine shelves, I trust they will be asking Men's Health and Attitude to ensure they don't have topless fellas with their nipples out on the front cover?

Or is a topless man less offensive somehow than a bikini-clad woman?