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| the internet, a right?
it isn't snowing where I live, but there are plenty of flakes online
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| Quote ="WestEndThinker"the internet, a right?
it isn't snowing where I live, but there are plenty of flakes online'"
They’ll want free Sky next. Also, have they never heard of books?
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Quote ="Durham Giant"That was access to WiFi hotspots which was implemented.
In addition BT was offering free wi fi vouchers which was turned down this would have increased availability to more families'"
Extract below taken from the link, what exactly did they turn down ?
BT is funding the scheme to provide in-need families with six months’ access to BT’s Wi-fi estate, while distribution is being handled directly by the DfE which will issue families with the necessary voucher usernames and passwords. Local Authorities and Academy Trusts will be invited to request vouchers, working with their schools to identify those children who are most in need. For more information about this project or the pilot, please contact: COVID.TECHNOLOGY@education.gov.uk
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Quote ="Durham Giant"That was access to WiFi hotspots which was implemented.
In addition BT was offering free wi fi vouchers which was turned down this would have increased availability to more families'"
Extract below taken from the link, what exactly did they turn down ?
BT is funding the scheme to provide in-need families with six months’ access to BT’s Wi-fi estate, while distribution is being handled directly by the DfE which will issue families with the necessary voucher usernames and passwords. Local Authorities and Academy Trusts will be invited to request vouchers, working with their schools to identify those children who are most in need. For more information about this project or the pilot, please contact: COVID.TECHNOLOGY@education.gov.uk
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Quote ="TURFEDOUT"Extract below taken from the link, what exactly did they turn down ?
BT is funding the scheme to provide in-need families with six months’ access to BT’s Wi-fi estate, while distribution is being handled directly by the DfE which will issue families with the necessary voucher usernames and passwords. Local Authorities and Academy Trusts will be invited to request vouchers, working with their schools to identify those children who are most in need. For more information about this project or the pilot, please contact: COVID.TECHNOLOGY@education.gov.uk'"
The vouchers were returned unused as the D of E was “unable” to distribute them.
You need to look at the articles that followed the press release you are looking at from June 2020
It is no different to the government in may announcing laptops for every school then 3 months later reducing the numbers offered by 2/3rds
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Quote ="TURFEDOUT"Extract below taken from the link, what exactly did they turn down ?
BT is funding the scheme to provide in-need families with six months’ access to BT’s Wi-fi estate, while distribution is being handled directly by the DfE which will issue families with the necessary voucher usernames and passwords. Local Authorities and Academy Trusts will be invited to request vouchers, working with their schools to identify those children who are most in need. For more information about this project or the pilot, please contact: COVID.TECHNOLOGY@education.gov.uk'"
The vouchers were returned unused as the D of E was “unable” to distribute them.
You need to look at the articles that followed the press release you are looking at from June 2020
It is no different to the government in may announcing laptops for every school then 3 months later reducing the numbers offered by 2/3rds
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| Quote ="Durham Giant"The vouchers were returned unused as the D of E was “unable” to distribute them.
You need to look at the articles that followed the press release you are looking at from June 2020
It is no different to the government in may announcing laptops for every school then 3 months later reducing the numbers offered by 2/3rds'"
Ok,so just for clarity, the offer wasn't turned down, it was unable to be implemented.
Does anyone know why it wasn't implemented,ive read a few things regarding data protection been the problem.
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| Quote ="Mike1970"They’ll want free Sky next. Also, have they never heard of books?'"
Do you think there will be enough book to go round, kids had to share them in the "good times", never mind when to country is on its booty.
Also, remember the cuts to education (in real terms) over the last 10+ years ??
Working from home and home schooling is great if you have space, hardware, wifi AND parents who have the ability and time to be "teacher".
The better off can do pretty well but, those at the bottom of the pile, with parents that dont give a damn, will struggle like hell and that's when they are already massively disadvantaged.
Sure, some parents should take a heap of the blame for how they live their lives but, just as with the free school meals, it's not the fault of the kids that they were born with mickey poor parents.
Mind you, some of the poor are busting a gut to improve their lot so, it's not all black and white but, the choice is to try and help or leave them to drop even further down the social pecking order.
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| Quote ="wrencat1873"Do you think there will be enough book to go round, kids had to share them in the "good times", never mind when to country is on its booty.
Also, remember the cuts to education (in real terms) over the last 10+ years ??
Working from home and home schooling is great if you have space, hardware, wifi AND parents who have the ability and time to be "teacher".
The better off can do pretty well but, those at the bottom of the pile, with parents that dont give a damn, will struggle like hell and that's when they are already massively disadvantaged.
Sure, some parents should take a heap of the blame for how they live their lives but, just as with the free school meals, it's not the fault of the kids that they were born with mickey poor parents.
Mind you, some of the poor are busting a gut to improve their lot so, it's not all black and white but, the choice is to try and help or leave them to drop even further down the social pecking order.'"
Maybe it’s about time society forced parents to take some responsibility then.
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| Quote ="Mike1970"Maybe it’s about time society forced parents to take some responsibility then.'"
Maybe, but it's not the kids faults they were lumbered with feckless parents.
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| Quote ="WestEndThinker"the internet, a right?
it isn't snowing where I live, but there are plenty of flakes online'"
Says the biggest snowflake around here.
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| Quote ="Mike1970"Maybe it’s about time society forced parents to take some responsibility then.'"
That's that kind of stuff that they print in "The Mail"
Some parents just aren't up to the job and then the question is, do you and should you allow their kids to be as "bad" or, should you try and do something the break the cycle.
If you can invest in these kids and help them improve their lot, it actually helps everyone.
Sure, in an ideal world, it shouldn't be neccessary but, the sad fact is that some need a lot more help than others.
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| Quote ="Mike1970"Maybe it’s about time society forced parents to take some responsibility then.'"
What like all the parents who are working full time and don’t earn enough to live on who then claim benefits
Or the single mother’s who were left by feckless fathers
Or the people who lost their jobs because of a pandemic
Or the parents who through no fault of their owns became ill and unable to work
Or the parents who have MH or substance abuse problems
Or the parents who are disabled
Then again why punish innocent children for the misfortunes or decisions made by their parents.
At what age do you think children should be made responsible for their parents circumstances and withdraw support from them
At birth, at 5 when they go to school, at 11 when they can get work in a mill or climb chimneys, at 13 when they become teenagers ?
That is why we have a welfare state because it saves as an insurance policy for the vulnerable, unlucky or disadvantaged in society.
It is a bit like the NHS. If you don’t like it I suggest that you stop using it’s services and just pay for everything yourself.
God forbid that you get Covid and end up in hospital and are told that your Bill for two weeks in an ICU at £2200 per day.
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| Wow. Seems like I managed to trigger all the snowflakes by just suggesting that parents who mistreat their kids take some responsibility.
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| Quote ="Mike1970"Wow. Seems like I managed to trigger all the snowflakes by just suggesting that parents who mistreat their kids take some responsibility.'"
Making yourself look like an unhinged loon to own the libs. Nice one.
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| Quote ="Mike1970"Wow. Seems like I managed to trigger all the snowflakes by just suggesting that parents who mistreat their kids take some responsibility.'"
If you don’t already, take up fishing - based on here you catch plenty with the bait you use
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| Quote ="The Ghost of '99"Making yourself look like an unhinged loon to own the libs. Nice one.'"
what a silly little individual you are, do you ever do anything other than sit on RLFans in your underpants eating pot noodles?
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| Quote ="ColD"If you don’t already, take up fishing - based on here you catch plenty with the bait you use
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Are you suggesting that his posts are designed solely to wind people up and troll which would be against the AUP
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| Quote ="WestEndThinker"what a silly little individual you are, do you ever do anything other than sit on RLFans in your underpants eating pot noodles?'"
I love it when you project.
Got any news for us on all those Brexit tax reductions you claimed existed on the other thread yet?
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| Quote ="Durham Giant"Are you suggesting that his posts are designed solely to wind people up and troll which would be against the AUP'"
Yet WestEndThinker carries on regardless despite wishing Covid on people amongst other things , and from what I’ve seen not even a nudge from any Mod
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| Quote ="ColD"Yet WestEndThinker carries on regardless despite wishing Covid on people amongst other things , and from what I’ve seen not even a nudge from any Mod
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No he is having a holiday subject to a review by admin.. I am happy to tolerate disagreement and healthy debate but when posts just become insulting without any argument then that crosses the line.
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| Quote ="Durham Giant"No he is having a holiday subject to a review by admin.. I am happy to tolerate disagreement and healthy debate but when posts just become insulting without any argument then that crosses the line.'"
Any suggestions on his next username.
Had more than Zsa Zsa Zsa Gabor had husbands.
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| Quote ="The Ghost of '99"I love it when you project.
Got any news for us on all those Brexit tax reductions you claimed existed on the other thread yet?'"
Bit hypocritical of you Ghost. I asked you what short cuts the government took to approve the vaccine weeks ago. Still awaiting a reply.
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| Quote ="Durham Giant"No he is having a holiday subject to a review by admin.. I am happy to tolerate disagreement and healthy debate but when posts just become insulting without any argument then that crosses the line.'"
So how come you have done nothing about the “insulting” posts to me?
You ban westend for what? It’s a drop in the ocean to what I get aimed at me but nothing is done about it.
No wonder this forum is on its last legs lol
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| Quote ="Steph Curry"So how come you have done nothing about the “insulting” posts to me?
You ban westend for what? It’s a drop in the ocean to what I get aimed at me but nothing is done about it.
No wonder this forum is on its last legs lol'"
Is this satire?
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| Quote ="Durham Giant"What like all the parents who are working full time and don’t earn enough to live on who then claim benefits
Or the single mother’s who were left by feckless fathers
Or the people who lost their jobs because of a pandemic
Or the parents who through no fault of their owns became ill and unable to work
Or the parents who have MH or substance abuse problems
Or the parents who are disabled
Then again why punish innocent children for the misfortunes or decisions made by their parents.
At what age do you think children should be made responsible for their parents circumstances and withdraw support from them
At birth, at 5 when they go to school, at 11 when they can get work in a mill or climb chimneys, at 13 when they become teenagers ?
That is why we have a welfare state because it saves as an insurance policy for the vulnerable, unlucky or disadvantaged in society.
It is a bit like the NHS. If you don’t like it I suggest that you stop using it’s services and just pay for everything yourself.
God forbid that you get Covid and end up in hospital and are told that your Bill for two weeks in an ICU at £2200 per day.'"
Some very interesting points but how do you get the kids the support they need without involving the parents that you have suggested either don't care or aren't capable. How long do you think a new laptop will last in house with a parent that is challenged by substance abuse?
On the NHS we don't have an option to not pay for it - it isn't free - its like education if you opt out you still have help fund the rest of the kids.
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