So anyway. Your thoughts on killing 4000 uk pensioners to save £1b (not my words, the words of the Labour Party) despite sending 11.6b to South Africa to held with net zero.

Try to answer without any whataboutery

I have explained both the biggest winter killer (poor insulation) and also the fact that the 11.6b pledge was made by de Pfeffel. The Labour government would like to honour this pledge but they admit it will be difficult.
I hope you can tell me the lottery numbers because you appear certain 4000 pensioners will die because they no longer have access to the winter fuel allowance. There is nothing whataboutery (not even a word) but one very popular with a certain section who don’t like their views questioned. I note you did not justify the Jimmy Saville statement is that because the truth that de Pfeffel made it up too much for you to accept.

It was Labour who stated over 4K pensioners would die. So what’s changed?

Which part because I doubt the ruling party would announce it. I don’t want any oap’s to die but sadly they will because they do every Winter because of various factors. I had to endure the funeral of my own mother about the time de Pfeffel was partying. She passed away in a nursing home but according to de Pfeffel it was time she had a good innings and what did he say let the bodies pile high.

Old people are the demographic that voted for the Tories and voted for Brexit and have had their pensions protected whilst working people have got poorer over the past 14 years thanks to the effect of those votes.

Labour now has to try and tidy up the mess and the deficits they have inherited. And if finding money for other important things means the WFA has to go for all but the most needy then I for one am happy that this most selfish and entitled generation will feel just a bit of the consequences of their actions for once*.

(* - yes I know there are a good number of older people who didn't vote for these things but unfortunately they'll need to take that up with the rest of their cohort.)

So sod the pensioners then , as long as we're sending billions to other countries it's all good. What a warped sense of priorities you have

Yes, sod the pensioners, they're the ones who got us into this mess.

And if they'd put more into their pensions when they were younger they wouldn't be reliant on £300 now.

Tend to agree regarding saving more. However spaffing gazillions up the wall on foreigners makes me a tad more sympathetic to our own people.

Yeah, that's really not the key issue facing the UK, no matter what the right wing press will tell you.

It's part of a wider problem giving our money away all over the globe when it should be spent on our own

It's utterly trivial compared to the real issues facing our country: low if not negative growth, low investment, low productivity and vast wealth inequality.

I don't think £30 billion+ is in any way trivial

2% of government spending. Of which a tiny amount goes on whatever you're whining about.
Please, focus on the really important stuff, not the trivia that you read in the Tory press.

You mean the stuff that's important to you?

No the stuff that has real genuine value, measured in government budget or impact on the economy or impact on people's earnings.
Getting bogged down in fabricated culture wars and misleading trivia is what the Tories and their friends in the press did for the past eight years rather than working to improve people's lives.

So Labour only have a 1 point lead over the tories lmao

Has their ever been a more disastrous start to a term than two tier Kier and his clueless mob lol

Liz Truss who was outlasted by a lettuce and those that voted her in believing she knew what she was doing.

First of all. I was taking about newly elected prime ministers based on their party winning the election.

Secondly, do your research, two tier kiers fall from Grace is worse than liz truss’ lmao.

Maybe he shouldn’t have protected a peado and maybe people would have liked him lmaooo

She was appointed the leader of the ruling party so was the PM albeit for long enough to damage the economy in only 49 days.

You want me to do my research but not you because you assume it to be worse based on your arrogant opinion.

The last statement does not even merit an answer because we all know the inaccuracy of this.

Who was head of the CPS at the time? That’s right two tier starmer

You're so lamentably stupid that it's hard to summon up the energy to reply. But no, Starmer was an MP by this stage.

Lol what? He was head of the cps in 2009 when no charges were brought against Saville lmaooo

But sure. I’m the stupid one lmaoooo

Like I said, unutterably stupid with zero understanding of how the UK's prosecution system works.

Lol whatever. I bet I’m educated to a higher level than you lmao

Can one assume from your comment above you've had some sort of experience with the UK's prosecution system then?.