Here's a useful QandA from the Beeb www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-16594683

Here's a useful QandA from the Beeb www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-16594683

Quote ="tb"Here's a useful QandA from the Beeb www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-16594683'" "The court has made clear that if the UK obtained an assurance from Jordan that evidence obtained by torture would not be used against Abu Qatada at trial, there would be nothing to stop his deportation." Important point

Quote ="tb"Here's a useful QandA from the Beeb www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-16594683'" "The court has made clear that if the UK obtained an assurance from Jordan that evidence obtained by torture would not be used against Abu Qatada at trial, there would be nothing to stop his deportation." Important point

Like those diplomatic assurances that UK intelligence agencies weren't at all involved in the rendition of "terror suspects" back to Libya?

Apparently so and they were accepted. It's the evidence that may be used against his that was allegedly obtained by torturing others that's the issue.

I doubt that, but then if I had, I quite possibly would, so perhaps I did, only if I did, and you had said what specifically I had purportedly misunderstood, then I would have had a chance of considering whether I had, or hadn't, insofar of course as I could, but as you didn't, I can't. So can you?

Surely the security services would be able to bump him off without arising too much suspision.

Said on radio today that France and Italy have ignored these rulings in the past and deported anyway. Seems as in fishing, we seem to obey everything and others pick to suit.

I am sure he is a danger to us, even our inept security services must have some compelling evidence to keep him locked up for so long. My worry is that we will be conned into releasing him and will suffer the consequences in blood, like the 7/7 attacks.

He's no danger to us whatsoever while he's locked up in Belmarsh, and there is just about zero chance of him being released. We have quite a range of options open to us, not least of which is prosecuting him here. This is far from the end of the story.

Lets hope Group 4 know EXACTLY where he is, or we could have a problem

Simple, lets start torturing him and then see what happens in the appeal?

five to seven

Apart from the fact that if no appeal is lodged then he'll have to be released immediately, that's all true.

So, you have no idea what you were taking about. Fair enough!

It's a shame Richard O’Dwyer didn't have his lawyer.

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Great minds think alike.

why dont we just either

kill him
or
deport him

then tell the world we ve released him.
job done.


its amazing how peaceful brits can be extradited but not murdering terrorist scum. yet again we jump when the yank/euro bassstrds tell us.

Cornish complains about something Churchill signed us up to.

minty , i doubt he had that in mind TBH.
in this day and age ADOLF would be allowed to stay in the uk rather than face extradition to israel for example.
personally i dont think thats right. obviously you do.

No. I do think that you've just posted a piece of hyperbolic nonsense, though, that OU not be able to find a single, solitary shred of evidence for

And, in the meantime, suggested tha you consider torture to be acceptable.

I'm still baffled how a young man breaking no UK law who has never been to USA and a guy with mental health issues CAN be deported yet someone who would gladly kill and incite to kill based purely on your belief system can stay.

Stuff human rights legislation, we have an agreement with Jordan so just sod the EU and send him to Jordan, what are the EU lot going to do if we do send him? hate us more than they already do.

It's not the EU!

As has been explained in this very thread.

i was being simplistic/lazy they are a bunch of EU judges.

It's not an EU organisation or body. The judges are not appointed by the EU. The fact that the judges come from Europe is not the same. And one of the judges was British. Europe is not a synonym for the EU.

Either we say that torture is bad – or we say it's okay. If we do the former, and we sign up to things involving that, then we stick with them. Not just when it's nice and easy – but when it's difficult too, as in this case, when I suspect that most people would like to get shot of a rather nasty piece of work. But nobody ever claimed that ethics and stuff like that was supposed to be easy or convenient.