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| 25 female nominations from 280.
What's that, about 9% of the total?
A woman boxer gets a couple of shouts though EB.
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| It doesn't help when you've got hugely-influential dinosaurs like Blatter suggesting that it would be better if women footballers dressed more like beach volleyball players. It also doesn't help when you see niminations for Rebecca Adlington, who by her own standards of 2010, would admit herself that she's had a quiet year, here nomination seems to have been more knee-jerk than well-considered
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| Quote ="cod'ead"It doesn't help when you've got hugely-influential dinosaurs like Blatter suggesting that it would be better if women footballers dressed more like beach volleyball players. It also doesn't help when you see niminations for Rebecca Adlington, who by her own standards of 2010, would admit herself that she's had a quiet year, here nomination seems to have been more knee-jerk than well-considered'"
The whole SPOTY is a load of BBC bollox isn't it?
Something you may have enjoyed as a kid but escalates in cringeworthyness, annually.
Zara Phillips ffs.
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| Quote ="WIZEB"The whole SPOTY is a load of BBC bollox isn't it?
Something you may have enjoyed as a kid but escalates in cringeworthyness, annually.
Zara Phillips ffs.'"
Agreed, it's now similar to the televising of Children in Need, the Royal Variety Performance, Comic Relief, or Noel Wears a Hideous Jumper and Visits Sick Kids at Christmas - something that leaves you thankful for a myriad other channels to be watching
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| For me it comes down to is it an equal or better product than the male equivalent.
Womans football is vastly inferior as are most sports.
Tennis is a better product only because the men have mastered the game to a boring level of smashing the ball so hard the other guy can't return it which isn't what people want to see, there are no sports off the top of my head in which i think if both men and woman competed woman would actually be better.
To me that's what it comes down to, people want to see the absolute pinnacle of the people who compete in any sport, unfortunately it's usually men.
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| In a team sport think it is probable that a male team would always be physically at an advantage.
Single sports the same would apply for most with the exceptions that Women should be able to compete as equals in table tennis, Darts, pool, Snooker etc ( Not sure why they do not at the moment).
Probably easier for the BBC to have a Male SPOTY and a Female SPOTY.
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| Quote ="Horatio Yed"For me it comes down to is it an equal or better product than the male equivalent.
Womans football is vastly inferior as are most sports.
Tennis is a better product only because the men have mastered the game to a boring level of smashing the ball so hard the other guy can't return it which isn't what people want to see, there are no sports off the top of my head in which i think if both men and woman competed woman would actually be better.
To me that's what it comes down to, people want to see the absolute pinnacle of the people who compete in any sport, unfortunately it's usually men.'"
Do you judge disabled sport only against male, abled-bodied sport? Do you not see that, in both, there are different pinnacles, and that both groups will achieve things within that situation – and both will provide entertainment within their situation. Or do you dismiss disabled sport on the basis that they don't compete with able-bodied males?
And I remember Garth Crooks being astonished at the standard of women's football when commenting on it at the Olympics some years ago. It can be very good – and that's against a background of women not having had the opportunities and encouragement to play for very long (in fact, their playing football being worked against), as with athletics (and other sports), where women have only very recently been able to compete in all events.
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| I thought Payne might get a nomination, although probably not many votes.
The programme is slowly descending into farce. Its not helped by the BBC having hardly any sport worth showing, much preferred it when it was Sports Review of the Year. Nowadays it just seems to be full of cringeworthy attempts at humour. Buts its long had a tradition of daft awards and nominations
It does seem though that over a period of say 5 years sportswomen have been reasonably well represented on the nominations. It has to be said that, apart from in Olympic years, the populaity of womens sport is fairly low, including amongst women themselves. I reckon there'll be roughly 50,000 women paying to watch a mens professional football match at the weekend. There'll be a decent turn out of women at the RU games. And we know that RL games attract a sizeable female audience. But how many of those women would go to a womens sports event?
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| Why do the Manchester Evening News and the Daily Post get a vote (never mind Nuts FFS) yet not the Yorkshire Post or another regional paper?
Not sure that this would have redressed the balance re female nominees, but seems to show a flawed system. The MEN voted for 3 ineligible candidates FFS
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| Quote ="Chris28"Why do the Manchester Evening News and the Daily Post get a vote (never mind Nuts FFS) yet not the Yorkshire Post or another regional paper?
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Can only be with the brand new BBC studios having moved up that neck of the woods.
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| I make it at least four female world champions are missing off that list, while the likes of Darren Clarke and Andy Murray are in on the basis of winning a couple of high profile tournaments (although in Murray's case, not a "major" among them).
Sadly, the sports where the UK has a strong female representation aren't the sort of high profile ones where names of the winners pop straight into your head - rowing, track cycling, open water and indoor swimming, triathlon etc get the same recognition as lower league football in the national media.
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| Imagine the carnage if there wasn't a black candidate....
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| Quote ="cod'ead"It also doesn't help when you see niminations for Rebecca Adlington, who by her own standards of 2010, would admit herself that she's had a quiet year, here nomination seems to have been more knee-jerk than well-considered'"
A gold & a silver medal in the World Championships is a quiet year?
At the end of the day its is a personality award, not a performance award, therefore those sports with the greatest exposure are always going to produce a greater amount of nominations.
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| Quote ="100% Wire"Imagine the carnage if there wasn't a black candidate....'"
Imagine the carnage if there wasn't a white candidate....
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| Quote ="LF13"
At the end of the day its is a personality award, not a performance award,'"
Then how the hell did Andy Murray receive a nomination?
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| Quote ="Rock God X"Then how the hell did Andy Murray receive a nomination?'"
He's got a personality.
Surly is a personality trait.
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| Quote ="Rock God X"Then how the hell did Andy Murray receive a nomination?'"
Murray is possibly more loquacious than Cavendish.
Hope Cav wins. Fully deserved for his exploits and he has a fit bird to boot.
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| Quote ="WIZEB"Imagine the carnage if there wasn't a white candidate....'"
Nobody would bat an eyelid except racist idiots
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| Quote ="100% Wire"Nobody would bat an eyelid except racist idiots'"
Do you know any?
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| Quote ="WIZEB"Do you know any?'"
Personally? Probably one or two... why? Or were you attempting to push the fact that I might be one because of my original post?
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| Quote ="100% Wire"Personally? Probably one or two... why? Or were you attempting to push the fact that I might be one because of my original post?'"
Is that you asking me a question or are you capable of working your own mind out?
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| Quote ="WIZEB"Is that you asking me a question or are you capable of working your own mind out?'"
I'm asking you a question
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| Quote ="100% Wire"I'm asking you a question'"
What?
Whether you're paranoid or not?
Pass!
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| Quote ="WIZEB"What?
Whether you're paranoid or not?
Pass!'"
Well you're no fun
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| Quote ="100% Wire"Well you're no fun'"
Go on then, you are.
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