How is it that Germany pays in less than the UK yet has a bigger GDP?

I think the chances of doing a deal are pretty good - we import more from the EU than they do from us so I would suggest it is in their interest to do a deal.

The withdrawal agreement wont get through Parliament so either the EU soften their stance or we leave no deal - I know which I think the EU would rather go for. This will be a shock for Junker, Tusk etc. Its about time we stood up to be counted

A mere 10bn Euros. A drop in the ocean. We'll have a dozen.

Quote ="Sal Paradise"How is it that Germany pays in less than the UK yet has a bigger GDP?'" Do they? https://www.cnsnews.com/news/article/pa ... ay-below-1 That wasn't the point. Backwardsman stated Germany pays virtually nothing.

Quote ="Sal Paradise"How is it that Germany pays in less than the UK yet has a bigger GDP?'" Do they? https://www.cnsnews.com/news/article/pa ... ay-below-1 That wasn't the point. Backwardsman stated Germany pays virtually nothing.

Quote ="tigertot"Do they? https://www.cnsnews.com/news/article/pa ... ay-below-1 That wasn't the point. Backwardsman stated Germany pays virtually nothing.'" In relation to gdp and the mountain of cash Germany has accumulated. Plus Putin has for many reasons is once again threatening the east European nations so maybe Germany will have to pay it’s fair share. A few months ago Cronus had a withering put down for several people on here. He quite rightly accused them of being more concerned for people not of this nation. No doubt I will be accused of being a little englander, nationalist etc etc. Meanwile In the real world a referendum took place, one side lost and one side one. Funny how people have forgotten that.

Quote ="tigertot"Do they? https://www.cnsnews.com/news/article/pa ... ay-below-1 That wasn't the point. Backwardsman stated Germany pays virtually nothing.'" In relation to gdp and the mountain of cash Germany has accumulated. Plus Putin has for many reasons is once again threatening the east European nations so maybe Germany will have to pay it’s fair share. A few months ago Cronus had a withering put down for several people on here. He quite rightly accused them of being more concerned for people not of this nation. No doubt I will be accused of being a little englander, nationalist etc etc. Meanwile In the real world a referendum took place, one side lost and one side one. Funny how people have forgotten that.

Think you and tigertot might care to study our part in the Berlin air blockade. World war three was about to kick off. Thanks to the bravery and flying skills of several nations including our RAF pilots the crisis was averted. Maybe you would also like to study the Marshall plan that got Europe and Germany back on its feet after the Second World War. So in view of the help Germany has had since the Second World War, not too much to ask is for them to pay a bit more into the kitty.

Did you deliberately lie about Germany paying virtually nothing or are you just ignorant?
I have more in common with my family in Germany & Eastern Europe than I have with the racists & xenophobes of the UK. I am European.

so the deal they are looking at means an end to free movement and we dont have to pay into that EU buckets anymore

sounds good to me

lets face it, the whole referendum was in the main about immigration (also having our own laws and not paying £350m a week to the EU)

strange how thats not being talked about now and all it seems to be about on the news is trade deals...... money men having their say/influence on the media again.

anyway lets see if it passes first, not looking likely which may end up us having a no deal!

Just when you were doing so well you have reverted back to insulting people. I have a Different view to you so i am ignorant.
As for the old tired cliches of racist and xenophobes , surely you can do better than that. You look to be in a downward spiral. However i remain optimistic you can raise your game. As for bullseye, seems like he is a bit smarter than you, so I will have to be on top form with him.

Finally, the truth will out!





Well let's hope so, for your sake anyway.

Quote ="tigertot"Do they? https://www.cnsnews.com/news/article/pa ... ay-below-1 That wasn't the point. Backwardsman stated Germany pays virtually nothing.'" If the internet is correct we pay in £10bn more than Germany

Quote ="tigertot"Do they? https://www.cnsnews.com/news/article/pa ... ay-below-1 That wasn't the point. Backwardsman stated Germany pays virtually nothing.'" If the internet is correct we pay in £10bn more than Germany

It will cost us $10bn more if we are not in the EU - really come one then let's see the data

Net or gross ?
How much do they receive back in grants etc compared to the UK ?

A project involving the EU nations share the 10bn Euro cost. We get to play a part and receive the benefits of not having to fund one of our own. You think we could do it cheaper on our own?

It's too late for him, already convinced by Mr Farage and UKIP who, by the way are not racist but have recently taken on Tommy Robinson ex EDL


According to Farage it was £350 million a week and we got nothing whatsoever in return

Bullseye makes Jim Bowen look smart.

Quote ="Sal Paradise"If the internet is correct we pay in £10bn more than Germany'" I provided an internet link that stated Germany pays about 40% more than the UK. Here's a link to Nato's own website that confirms https://www.nato.int/cps/en/natohq/topics_67655.htm Perhaps you can provide your evidence? Notwithstanding, I have never given a view either way as I didn't know. What I did know is that Backwardsman clearly stated Germany pays virtually nothing & that that is cobblers. He is also not man enough to admit he was wrong & had no evidence for his assertion. He no doubt read it in the Sun.

Quote ="Sal Paradise"If the internet is correct we pay in £10bn more than Germany'" I provided an internet link that stated Germany pays about 40% more than the UK. Here's a link to Nato's own website that confirms https://www.nato.int/cps/en/natohq/topics_67655.htm Perhaps you can provide your evidence? Notwithstanding, I have never given a view either way as I didn't know. What I did know is that Backwardsman clearly stated Germany pays virtually nothing & that that is cobblers. He is also not man enough to admit he was wrong & had no evidence for his assertion. He no doubt read it in the Sun.

Great smashin super.

Come nad have a look at what you could have had (as Claude Junker rolls on the floor laughing)

This sums up the rabid leaver to a tee, egged on by brazen liars such as Farage, Johnson, Rees-Mogg, Banks and co, who were quite happy to appear on any media outlet that would have them (and they all did, often) spouting untruths, exaggerations and outright xenophobic nonsense, to appeal to the baser instincts of the aggrieved man in the street - convincing them that the source of all the frustrations and disappointment in their lives, was the EU.

We are in a very different place now - the lies have been stripped away, reality has bitten, and leavers are getting nothing like what they were promised, and they never will; nobody "won."

Quote ="tigertot"I provided an internet link that stated Germany pays about 40% more than the UK. Here's a link to Nato's own website that confirms https://www.nato.int/cps/en/natohq/topics_67655.htm Perhaps you can provide your evidence? Notwithstanding, I have never given a view either way as I didn't know. What I did know is that Backwardsman clearly stated Germany pays virtually nothing & that that is cobblers. He is also not man enough to admit he was wrong & had no evidence for his assertion. He no doubt read it in the Sun.'" You will find that the true benchmark of contributions is per gdp. Obviously the wealthiest nations should pay more. Obviously Germany fails to pay it’s fair share. I can’t help you if you are unable to grasp basic formulas and information. I don’t read the sun, should I is it any good?.Meanwhile the referendum result remains the same ,the leave movement won and the remain brigade lost.

Quote ="tigertot"I provided an internet link that stated Germany pays about 40% more than the UK. Here's a link to Nato's own website that confirms https://www.nato.int/cps/en/natohq/topics_67655.htm Perhaps you can provide your evidence? Notwithstanding, I have never given a view either way as I didn't know. What I did know is that Backwardsman clearly stated Germany pays virtually nothing & that that is cobblers. He is also not man enough to admit he was wrong & had no evidence for his assertion. He no doubt read it in the Sun.'" You will find that the true benchmark of contributions is per gdp. Obviously the wealthiest nations should pay more. Obviously Germany fails to pay it’s fair share. I can’t help you if you are unable to grasp basic formulas and information. I don’t read the sun, should I is it any good?.Meanwhile the referendum result remains the same ,the leave movement won and the remain brigade lost.

Sadly you may need professional help, your obsession with farage, Rees mogg and Johnson is distinctly unhealthy. Coupled with the harsh fact that you seem unable to comprehend that the leave vote won. I sincerely hope you can find peace in your life.

Unfortunately what was an internal Conservative Party argument has now divided the country. If Cameron's aim was to sort out the argument once and for all he was utterly mistaken. If anything it's exacerbated the division and spread it. Whatever happens there will be two irreconcilable camps who will be arguing over it for decades to come.

It's funny, go back prior to 2010 and the subject of Europe and our place in it was hardly discussed. Happy days.

And what will they gain from their "win?"

JRM said that it could be 50 years before we see any benefit from leaving.