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Lies, lies and more damned lies.'"
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When Hunt goes, will the trail lead direct to Osborne and then Dave Boy? Mr Murdoch may have done the country a great favour. |
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Murdoch is not alone in culpability, but he bears a large degree of responsibility for the dumbing down of public discourse in this country.
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The complete confusion over who is dealing with the whole Hunt issue gives more credence to the view that the country has been handed over to sixth formers. Leveson is being used as a smokescreen to avoid them having to investigate. It's a clear ministerial issue that overrides Leveson and they know it. I suspect as Dally says, they don't want to look at Hunt too closely in case the whole background is revealed.
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I wonder if an FoI request could reveal just how substantial the bung was that Adam Smith received to take the flak?
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[url=http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-17883101And the rich are getting ever richer[/url
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Thank god they got a tax cut.
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I feel better knowing we're all in this together and[u IDS isn't running away and will look after those of us in difficulty.[/u'"
He isn't running and Chris Grayling isn't running with him. In fact they're not running they're fooking sprinting.
www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree ... y-disabled
....and to think there were some people who didn't believe me when I told them this was happening, some of them my own family, saying they can't take your benefit away, what will you live on, they have to give you [isomething[/i. Well it is really happening......starting tomorrow. Just how much lower can this government go? |
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He isn't running and Chris Grayling isn't running with him. In fact they're not running they're fooking sprinting.
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....and to think there were some people who didn't believe me when I told them this was happening, some of them my own family, saying they can't take your benefit away, what will you live on, they have to give you [isomething[/i. Well it is really happening......starting tomorrow. Just how much lower can this government go? | |
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From Steph's link, this speaks volumes:
[iWhen I wake up tomorrow morning I shall still be unwell, I shall still be unemployed, and I shall still be struggling with the myriad problems that chronic ill health brings.
Tomorrow I will simply become a small piece of collateral damage in the government's drive to reform welfare spending.[/i
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I recollect he went through all this bollox over Liam Fox, it's just another example of a poor picker of men seeking to justify his original decision. The bloke (Cameron) is sheer bloody incompetence and sheer bloody mindedness personified.'"
You have to wonder whether he dare let Hunt resign. At the moment Hunt is taking the flak for the Tories' previous pro Murdoch stance. Cameron hob-nobbing with Rupert and James, horse riding with Rebeckah, discussing informally the bid for total ownership of BskyB, among themselves. Presumably Hunt was just reflecting the zeigeist of the regime. How was he (or the rest for that matter) to know that 6 months down the line Murdoch's chickens would come home to roost with a vengence.
Whilst in opposition and in the early days of his government, Murdoch was saying jump and Cameron & co were saying "how high?" The sooner Murdoch is eliminated from a position of power and influence on our politics the better. The last lot kow-towed to him and for all we know took us into Iraq on his say so.
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It's like being transported back to the early 1990's at the moment. A floundering Government but without a credible opposition.
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In October 2010 this is what Osbourne was saying about growth in the economy. Only 4 months after his first budget the economy was still being affected by the previous government's policies. But Ossy takes the credit of course.
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Quote ="major hound"In October 2010 this is what Osbourne was saying about growth in the economy. Only 4 months after his first budget the economy was still being affected by the previous government's policies. But Ossy takes the credit of course.
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I cant see or hear any obvious editing joints and so I can only assume that the bloke is a complete fooking idiot to treat a media interrogator like that, its hardly surprising that when your job is to interview these buffoons then when you get the chance to stick the boot in you do it, twice, and one more for good measure - whoever is doing their media training is dumber than they are to think it will work.
Not that I blame the posh boy alone for all politicians of all hues are the same, you can count on the fingers of one hand which MP's tell it like it is rather than following the press office pre-approved script of answers and the ones who tell it like it is are the ones who get shoved to the back benches and gagged from speaking, only surviving because their constituents love the fact that they tell it like it is -see Skinner for example.
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I cant see or hear any obvious editing joints and so I can only assume that the bloke is a complete fooking idiot to treat a media interrogator like that, its hardly surprising that when your job is to interview these buffoons then when you get the chance to stick the boot in you do it, twice, and one more for good measure - whoever is doing their media training is dumber than they are to think it will work.
Not that I blame the posh boy alone for all politicians of all hues are the same, you can count on the fingers of one hand which MP's tell it like it is rather than following the press office pre-approved script of answers and the ones who tell it like it is are the ones who get shoved to the back benches and gagged from speaking, only surviving because their constituents love the fact that they tell it like it is -see Skinner for example.
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[url=http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/eurozone-crisis-has-a-long-way-to-go-warns-cameron-7689150.htmlIt's all Europe's fault[/url
After watching Cameron's performance on the Andrew Marr show yesterday, I had to rewind and replay the bit where he blamed Europe for our return to recession. The man's a diplomatic nightmare. We rely on Europe for over 40% of our exports, what did he seriously hope to achieve by blaming them for not buying enough from us?
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| Quote ="McLaren_Field"I cant see or hear any obvious editing joints and so I can only assume that the bloke is a complete fooking idiot to treat a media interrogator like that, its hardly surprising that when your job is to interview these buffoons then when you get the chance to stick the boot in you do it, twice, and one more for good measure - whoever is doing their media training is dumber than they are to think it will work.
Not that I blame the posh boy alone for all politicians of all hues are the same, you can count on the fingers of one hand which MP's tell it like it is rather than following the press office pre-approved script of answers and the ones who tell it like it is are the ones who get shoved to the back benches and gagged from speaking, only surviving because their constituents love the fact that they tell it like it is -see Skinner for example.
Just for once I'd like one of them to just say it out loud - we're all fooked and frankly we're just dithering around and hoping that something good happens before the next election, or else we'll be fooked, clueless and out of a job too.'" You want the interviewer to say at the end 'Thanks for that chancelor but in future if you are only going to say the same things over and over again then we will just take a soundbyte from you and keep replaying it'. |
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[url=http://ippr.org/images/media/files/publication/2011/11/lost-origins_Nov2011_8240.pdfAn insightful view on just what led us and how far up [is[/ihit creek we really are[/url
"The lost origins of industrial growth" by Chris Benjamin, a former Undersectretary at the DTI
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Oh-ho ... it's as if they were starting to align themselves for the next leadership contest.
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That's how it strikes me too.
Cameron probably already knows the detail, he's just handing it onto the Leveson enquiry to see if he can get away with it.
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Cameron probably already knows the detail, he's just handing it onto the Leveson enquiry to see if he can get away with it.
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It has been said he's been trying to hang on until after Thursday's elections. Not looking a good idea though now.
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Cameron certainly seemed to be struggling to answer the special question this afternoon, even with all his cronies obviously clearing their diaries to sit next to him - strangely no LibDem cabinet ministers were there though.
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he didn't need to ask!!
