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| Amazed if it was schools.
Didn't Bozo tell us he had 'great confidence' in his 'world-beating' track and trace system being up and running for schools to reopen on June 1st 2020?
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| Schools and Universities being open and the new variant from Sept too.
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| Quote ="Steph Curry"Corbyn would have handled it better? Lol. How? By calling it the fault of isreal and offering it free WiFi to go away?'"
Tbf with the nationwide homeschooling free WiFi would sound like a great policy right about now.
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| Quote ="Bullseye"Schools and Universities being open and the new variant from Sept too.'"
I’d also go with the relaxation of supermarket restrictions.
The ASDA in Normanton have pretty much gone back to pre Covid.
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| Quote ="Willzay"I’d also go with the relaxation of supermarket restrictions.
The ASDA in Normanton have pretty much gone back to pre Covid.'"
No toilet rolls or, nobody gives a damn ?
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| Quote ="wrencat1873"I agree
The "Leader" of our country declared schools "safe" on Sunday lunchtime and then the following day, declared they would need to close.
He FINALLY seems to have grasped that kids, although at vey low risk themselves, actually DO spread the virus.
It's taken him 10 months to work this out and perhaps instead of berating the Teachers and Unions at every opportunity, he should start to listen to them as they clearly know a fair bit more than him - granted, it's not difficult.'"
He reinforced his point tonight that schools are safe, which they are. It’s the knock on effect into the community that’s the concern.
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| Quote ="Willzay"I’d also go with the relaxation of supermarket restrictions.
The ASDA in Normanton have pretty much gone back to pre Covid.'"
THIS
Very surprised it’s not been mentioned before, most supermarkets have been extremely relaxed in terms of volume of people allowed in, no 2m rules, no floor markings, no one way systems - then if by magic on Monday our local Asda went back to limited numbers, long queues outside. Be interesting if there are any stats for infection from supermarkets
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| Quote ="ColD"THIS
Very surprised it’s not been mentioned before, most supermarkets have been extremely relaxed in terms of volume of people allowed in, no 2m rules, no floor markings, no one way systems - then if by magic on Monday our local Asda went back to limited numbers, long queues outside. Be interesting if there are any stats for infection from supermarkets'"
Yes, because Covid comes with a barcode tag that states where and when you caught it, and from whom...
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| Quote ="WestEndThinker"Yes, because Covid comes with a barcode tag that states where and when you caught it, and from whom...'"
Is that not part of the point of track and trace
or is it just your intention to slag everybody off until you are eventually banned
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| Quote ="WestEndThinker"Yes, because Covid comes with a barcode tag that states where and when you caught it, and from whom...'"
I would refer you to the sticky thread at the top of the forum entitled :
Gentle reminder provocative posting, also known as “Superblues Law”
Please don’t let my efforts go to waste.
Infamy in perpetuity
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| Quote ="wire-quin"He reinforced his point tonight that schools are safe, which they are. It’s the knock on effect into the community that’s the concern.'"
It would be more accurate to say that youngsters are safe whilst at school.
However, they need support staff, teachers, kitchen staff etc, etc
Not to mention that if the kids are "carriers" of the virus, they can spread the thing at school and back home.
I can give you the number of a couple of family members who work at a school in London, where they contracted the virus.
Thankfully both seem to be ok but, I'm sure that they will be delighted with your comment which, for the record, is just wrong.
Sorry pal but, schools are not "safe".
Do you actually think the virus can tell the difference between school, local shops, pub etc, etc
Boris Johnson is a compulsive liar and because he repeats a comment, it doesn't become anymore valid.
I can give you a list of his BIG lies if you want but, you know how long it will be.
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| Quote ="Superblue"I would refer you to the sticky thread at the top of the forum entitled :
Gentle reminder provocative posting, also known as “Superblues Law”
Please don’t let my efforts go to waste.
Infamy in perpetuity
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Stating that someone is posting rubbish is not provocative.
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| Quote ="WestEndThinker"Stating that someone is posting rubbish is not provocative.'"
Correct. However, the way in which it is stated could be.
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| Quote ="Wanderer"Correct. However, the way in which it is stated could be.'"
Indeed, but my comment was accurate, there is no way of knowing where someone catches this terrible infection...
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| Quote ="wrencat1873"It would be more accurate to say that youngsters are safe whilst at school.
However, they need support staff, teachers, kitchen staff etc, etc
Not to mention that if the kids are "carriers" of the virus, they can spread the thing at school and back home.
I can give you the number of a couple of family members who work at a school in London, where they contracted the virus.
Thankfully both seem to be ok but, I'm sure that they will be delighted with your comment which, for the record, is just wrong.
Sorry pal but, schools are not "safe".
Do you actually think the virus can tell the difference between school, local shops, pub etc, etc
Boris Johnson is a compulsive liar and because he repeats a comment, it doesn't become anymore valid.
I can give you a list of his BIG lies if you want but, you know how long it will be.'"
One thing is certain - your family members will not know where they caught the virus and how - so to blame it on schools and in particular the kids may not be accurate.
If opening schools is a priority then teachers should be the next group to be vaccinated - they could all be done in a week and in 3 weeks be reasonably immune.
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| Quote ="wrencat1873"It would be more accurate to say that youngsters are safe whilst at school.
However, they need support staff, teachers, kitchen staff etc, etc
Not to mention that if the kids are "carriers" of the virus, they can spread the thing at school and back home.
I can give you the number of a couple of family members who work at a school in London, where they contracted the virus.
Thankfully both seem to be ok but, I'm sure that they will be delighted with your comment which, for the record, is just wrong.
Sorry pal but, schools are not "safe".
Do you actually think the virus can tell the difference between school, local shops, pub etc, etc
Boris Johnson is a compulsive liar and because he repeats a comment, it doesn't become anymore valid.
I can give you a list of his BIG lies if you want but, you know how long it will be.'"
Only to satisfy pedants like you. I understood what he meant. Schools are safe to me means schools are safe.
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| Happy to corrected but I think the SAGE advice was always that attending school is safe for children, as children only get minor symptoms if any at all. The obvious issue is that they can pass it on, this wasn't so much of an issue as the younger you are you tend to have a lower viral load. Even prior to Christmas SAGE were advising that shutting schools would be the biggest driver to reduce the R rate, but as the new variant is much more transmissible, which increases risk that they pass it onto parents and carers and so on.
But at least now Boris can argue he has now made schools safe, as hardly anyone is allowed to attend.
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| Education is an interesting debate.
Given that most schools are following a similar study pattern is there not a case for the public television service to deliver on line lessons - they have multiple channels not used during the day.
Could the lesson not be delivered to all at the same time - that way we don't need loads of laptops and broadband
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Yet when BT offered free wi fi to poor children in spring last year the government turned it down in favour of other approaches by their friends in the private sector who have not delivered.
TheTory party caring for vulnerable children since 1870
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/articl ... er-BT.html
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Yet when BT offered free wi fi to poor children in spring last year the government turned it down in favour of other approaches by their friends in the private sector who have not delivered.
TheTory party caring for vulnerable children since 1870
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/articl ... er-BT.html
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Quote ="Durham Giant"Yet when BT offered free wi fi to poor children in spring last year the government turned it down in favour of other approaches by their friends in the private sector who have not delivered.
TheTory party caring for vulnerable children since 1870
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/articl ... er-BT.html'"
Did they really turn it down ?
Below would suggest it was never turned down?
https://www.btwifi.co.uk/business/secto ... education/
Could be a whole host of reasons why it wasn't successful.My instant thought is why didn't BT offer the "free" access directly to vulnerable families.
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Quote ="Durham Giant"Yet when BT offered free wi fi to poor children in spring last year the government turned it down in favour of other approaches by their friends in the private sector who have not delivered.
TheTory party caring for vulnerable children since 1870
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/articl ... er-BT.html'"
Did they really turn it down ?
Below would suggest it was never turned down?
https://www.btwifi.co.uk/business/secto ... education/
Could be a whole host of reasons why it wasn't successful.My instant thought is why didn't BT offer the "free" access directly to vulnerable families.
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Quote ="TURFEDOUT"Did they really turn it down ?
Below would suggest it was never turned down?
https://www.btwifi.co.uk/business/secto ... education/
Could be a whole host of reasons why it wasn't successful.My instant thought is why didn't BT offer the "free" access directly to vulnerable families.'"
Don't go quoting facts from BT themselves, it doesn't fit the RLFans anti Conservative m.o
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Quote ="TURFEDOUT"Did they really turn it down ?
Below would suggest it was never turned down?
https://www.btwifi.co.uk/business/secto ... education/
Could be a whole host of reasons why it wasn't successful.My instant thought is why didn't BT offer the "free" access directly to vulnerable families.'"
Don't go quoting facts from BT themselves, it doesn't fit the RLFans anti Conservative m.o
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Quote ="TURFEDOUT"Did they really turn it down ?
Below would suggest it was never turned down?
https://www.btwifi.co.uk/business/secto ... education/
Could be a whole host of reasons why it wasn't successful.My instant thought is why didn't BT offer the "free" access directly to vulnerable families.'"
That was access to WiFi hotspots which was implemented.
In addition BT was offering free wi fi vouchers which was turned down this would have increased availability to more families
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Quote ="TURFEDOUT"Did they really turn it down ?
Below would suggest it was never turned down?
https://www.btwifi.co.uk/business/secto ... education/
Could be a whole host of reasons why it wasn't successful.My instant thought is why didn't BT offer the "free" access directly to vulnerable families.'"
That was access to WiFi hotspots which was implemented.
In addition BT was offering free wi fi vouchers which was turned down this would have increased availability to more families
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| Quote ="Durham Giant"That was access to WiFi hotspots which was implemented.
In addition BT was offering free wi fi vouchers which was turned down this would have increased availability to more families'"
That seems a strange strategy - have the government explained why they adopted this strategy?
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| Quote ="Zoo Zoo Boom"That seems a strange strategy - have the government explained why they adopted this strategy?'"
All I have found is that they felt it would be too slow to have an affect and wanted schools to take responsibility for adapting to existing systems .
After the first lockdown as government policy was to keep schools open at all costs their seems to have been limited planning for any further moves to on line learning hence the new problems.
It is worth noting that one of the party leaders at the last election stood ina policy that access to free internet should be a right and a necessity in modern society but this was laughed at by many. He was the same party leader who refused to meet Trump arguing he was a dangerous hate monger
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| Quote ="Durham Giant"All I have found is that they felt it would be too slow to have an affect and wanted schools to take responsibility for adapting to existing systems .
After the first lockdown as government policy was to keep schools open at all costs their seems to have been limited planning for any further moves to on line learning hence the new problems.
It is worth noting that one of the party leaders at the last election stood ina policy that access to free internet should be a right and a necessity in modern society but this was laughed at by many. He was the same party leader who refused to meet Trump arguing he was a dangerous hate monger'"
I think most would agree the internet should be available to all but for the government to be the only supplier - not a great idea especially to all those firms currently employed in supplying and developing it.
Corbyn might not happy to meet with Trump but he is happy to meet with Islamic & Christian terrorists - these are hardly men that peddle unity and mutual cooperation?
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