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| Quote ="Sir Kevin Sinfield"The prime minister should only be decided from a general election, you vote for a political party and the winners leader becomes prime minister. I’d say that is electing a leader.
Boris Johnson has been selected by a small number of old rich men, this is not democracy. 699 out of every 700 people did not vote for Boris Johnson, he has no right to be PM and should call an election if he has any integrity (he doesn’t)'"
You mean like the Blair Brown succession?
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You dont half spoil things by coming on here with such facts.
I was all for jumping on the Boris Bus
I wonder if Boris actually believes the crap that he spouted on the steps to number 10 or, does he have some Trumpesque issues and who has costed his numerous spending pledges.
It's really interesting that your friend says that Labour will overspend, when his new hero is sounding like Viv Nicholson and if we end up with no deal, there isn't a hope in hell of any extra cash and we're probably going to be in for some more Tory Austerity.
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| Quote ="wrencat1873"Y
I wonder if Boris actually believes the crap that he spouted on the steps to number 10 or, does he have some Trumpesque issues and who has costed his numerous spending pledges.
It's really interesting that your friend says that Labour will overspend, when his new hero is sounding like Viv Nicholson and if we end up with no deal, there isn't a hope in hell of any extra cash and we're probably going to be in for some more Tory Austerity.'"
He has got away with lies, cheating & untruths all his spoilt life, so not a chance will he have bothered to do his sums. Johnson broke rules on financial interests three times in less than a year. He blew millions on his Garden Bridge vanity project. He wasted £300,000 on illegal water cannon. His routemaster buses became saunas on wheels. At £325,000 a pop, they cost almost double a conventional double-decker & were scrapped. He called his £250k-a-year pocket money chicken feed.
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| Quote ="tigertot"He has got away with lies, cheating & untruths all his spoilt life, so not a chance will he have bothered to do his sums. Johnson broke rules on financial interests three times in less than a year. He blew millions on his Garden Bridge vanity project. He wasted £300,000 on illegal water cannon. His routemaster buses became saunas on wheels. At £325,000 a pop, they cost almost double a conventional double-decker & were scrapped. He called his £250k-a-year pocket money chicken feed.'"
Brown sold our gold at a record low in the market.
Blair took is into an illegal war.
Just because you are envious of Boris' family, upbringing, education, ability and opportunity.
He is Prime Minister, deal with it. What have you achieved in your life?
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Just because you are envious of Boris' family, upbringing, education, ability and opportunity.
He is Prime Minister, deal with it. What have you achieved in your life?'"
I am not in the slightest envious of monied opportunity. If Johnson is what that produces it ought to be illegal. I am very pleased & proud with what I have produced & achieved, which has all been through hard work, honesty & collaboration.
There's only one person on here who is envious of his lords & masters, & does there fagging.
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| Quote ="tigertot"I am not in the slightest envious of monied opportunity. If Johnson is what that produces it ought to be illegal. I am very pleased & proud with what I have produced & achieved, which has all been through hard work, honesty & collaboration.
There's only one person on here who is envious of his lords & masters, & does there fagging.'"
You are funny, you should do a stage tour, there must be at least 14 working mens clubs with outdated views like your good self.
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| Quote ="IR80"outdated views like your good self.'"
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| Quote ="IR80" outdated views like your good self.'"
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| Quote ="IR80"You mean like the Blair Brown succession?'"
Indeed. Here's your man Boris Johnson on Gordon Brown's succession:
“It’s the arrogance. It’s the contempt. That’s what gets me. It’s Gordon Brown’s apparent belief that he can just trample on the democratic will of the British people. It’s at moments like this that I think the political world has gone mad, and I am alone in detecting the gigantic fraud.”
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“They voted for Anthony Charles Lynton Blair to serve as their leader. They were at no stage invited to vote on whether Gordon Brown should be PM… They voted for Tony, and yet they now get Gordon, and a transition about as democratically proper as the transition from Claudius to Nero. It is a scandal. Why are we all conniving in this stitch-up? This is nothing less than a palace coup… with North Korean servility, the Labour Party has handed power over to the brooding Scottish power-maniac.”
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“The extraordinary thing is that it looks as though he will now be in 10 Downing Street for three years, and without a mandate from the British people. No one elected Gordon Brown as Prime Minister…”
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“Gordon Brown could appease public indignation over that, and secure the democratic mandate he needs, by asking the public to vote at once on him, on the new EU treaty, and on the implications of the devolutionary settlement. Let’s have an election without delay.”
It's a delicious irony of attempts to rehabilitate the odious Boris Johnson, that in a long career as a shock-jock columnist, with a firm belief in his own comedic genius, pretty much all of his rancid opinions went to press, so he can never escape from them.
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| Quote ="bren2k"Indeed. Here's your man Boris Johnson on Gordon Brown's succession:
“It’s the arrogance. It’s the contempt. That’s what gets me. It’s Gordon Brown’s apparent belief that he can just trample on the democratic will of the British people. It’s at moments like this that I think the political world has gone mad, and I am alone in detecting the gigantic fraud.”
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“They voted for Anthony Charles Lynton Blair to serve as their leader. They were at no stage invited to vote on whether Gordon Brown should be PM… They voted for Tony, and yet they now get Gordon, and a transition about as democratically proper as the transition from Claudius to Nero. It is a scandal. Why are we all conniving in this stitch-up? This is nothing less than a palace coup… with North Korean servility, the Labour Party has handed power over to the brooding Scottish power-maniac.”
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“The extraordinary thing is that it looks as though he will now be in 10 Downing Street for three years, and without a mandate from the British people. No one elected Gordon Brown as Prime Minister…”
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“Gordon Brown could appease public indignation over that, and secure the democratic mandate he needs, by asking the public to vote at once on him, on the new EU treaty, and on the implications of the devolutionary settlement. Let’s have an election without delay.”
It's a delicious irony of attempts to rehabilitate the odious Boris Johnson, that in a long career as a shock-jock columnist, with a firm belief in his own comedic genius, pretty much all of his rancid opinions went to press, so he can never escape from them.'"
So Labour and the Conservatives are double dealimg, self serving.
Put me down for a table in the "not surprised" section.
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| Garbutt - copy & pasting Sun & Mail headlines slagging off Labour, only to be embarrassed with multiple evidence of your hypocrisy; then claiming they are all the same just makes you look even dafter.
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| Quote ="IR80"So Labour and the Conservatives are double dealimg, self serving.
I think the problem with almost all politicians and people in power is that, eventually they will become self serving.
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| Quote ="bren2k"Indeed. Here's your man Boris Johnson on Gordon Brown's succession:
“It’s the arrogance. It’s the contempt. That’s what gets me. It’s Gordon Brown’s apparent belief that he can just trample on the democratic will of the British people. It’s at moments like this that I think the political world has gone mad, and I am alone in detecting the gigantic fraud.”
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“They voted for Anthony Charles Lynton Blair to serve as their leader. They were at no stage invited to vote on whether Gordon Brown should be PM… They voted for Tony, and yet they now get Gordon, and a transition about as democratically proper as the transition from Claudius to Nero. It is a scandal. Why are we all conniving in this stitch-up? This is nothing less than a palace coup… with North Korean servility, the Labour Party has handed power over to the brooding Scottish power-maniac.”
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“The extraordinary thing is that it looks as though he will now be in 10 Downing Street for three years, and without a mandate from the British people. No one elected Gordon Brown as Prime Minister…”
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“Gordon Brown could appease public indignation over that, and secure the democratic mandate he needs, by asking the public to vote at once on him, on the new EU treaty, and on the implications of the devolutionary settlement. Let’s have an election without delay.”
It's a delicious irony of attempts to rehabilitate the odious Boris Johnson, that in a long career as a shock-jock columnist, with a firm belief in his own comedic genius, pretty much all of his rancid opinions went to press, so he can never escape from them.'"
Very true, Boris Johnson is a complete hypocrite unless he calls a general election very soon.
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| Quote ="Sir Kevin Sinfield"Very true, Boris Johnson is a complete hypocrite unless he calls a general election very soon.'"
By the same token so are labour politicians using the change in leadership to call for one.
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| Quote ="wotsupcas"I think the problem with almost all politicians and people in power is that, eventually they will become self serving'"
I know that has become the accepted mantra but I don't think that is true. There are numerous dedicated MPs working away for their constituents who do not get the limelight because that is just what they are doing. It is their full time job, taking the away from their families for large amounts of time, without highly paid occasional other jobs. Jo Cox was a great example, I'm sure only the likes of Garbutt would class her as self-serving.
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| Quote ="IR80"envious of Boris' family, upbringing, education, ability and opportunity.'"
By all accounts, his father, Stanley, is a cheating scoundrel, guilty of multiple extra-marital affairs. Like father, like son, aye? The apple never falls far from the tree. Don't be suckered in by Stanley's media persona which was fabricated in I'm a Celebrity... and continues to be fabricated as they pair him up with some young sort from Made in Chelsea, like they're best buddies. It's all an act to normalise him. Just like Boris is an act to make him appear as your mate, when in reality, he'd have you in the workhouse 12 hours a day until you're 80. But you keep licking the Johnson's boots. There's a good serf.
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| Quote ="King Street Cat"By all accounts, his father, Stanley, is a cheating scoundrel, guilty of multiple extra-marital affairs. Like father, like son, aye? The apple never falls far from the tree. Don't be suckered in by Stanley's media persona which was fabricated in I'm a Celebrity... and continues to be fabricated as they pair him up with some young sort from Made in Chelsea, like they're best buddies. It's all an act to normalise him. Just like Boris is an act to make him appear as your mate, when in reality, he'd have you in the workhouse 12 hours a day until you're 80. But you keep licking the Johnson's boots. There's a good serf.'"
Firstly, I genuinely hope you get over the bitterness you hold.
Secondly, what does anyones PRIVATE life count
You hate commerce, professionalism and achievement, obvious envy.
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| Quote ="IR80"Firstly, I genuinely hope you get over the bitterness you hold.
Secondly, what does anyones PRIVATE life count
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ABdPB has said ‘**** business’, was sacked from his first job as a journalist for making up a quote (that led his own godfather complaining about him), and is most famous for being a shambling, dishevelled, dishonest former member of the University of Oxford’s spoilt gormless vandal club.
Then there is his use, this century, of terms like ‘watermelon smiles’ and ‘flag waving piccaninnies’ to describe Africans.
Do you regard him more or less highly than KSC? I don’t know KSC, but I imagine he’d make a better prime minister. See also, Zippy from Rainbow, my 5-year old grandniece (who is at least cute), and the singer with the moustache from the Go Compare adverts.
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| Quote ="Mild Rover"See also, Zippy from Rainbow, my 5-year old grandniece (who is at least cute), and the singer with the moustache from the Go Compare adverts.'"
It's a little know fact that Zippy was a strong supporter of the Democratic Socialist movement, and had some interesting ideas about the inevitable failure of the capitalist system; so powerful was his conviction, that on the set of Rainbow, many people referred to him as 'Comrade Zippy.'
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| Quote ="bren2k"It's a little know fact that Zippy was a strong supporter of the Democratic Socialist movement, and had some interesting ideas about the inevitable failure of the capitalist system; so powerful was his conviction, that on the set of Rainbow, many people referred to him as 'Comrade Zippy.''"
Part of the infamous red puppet brigade, i’ve heard.
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| How much of Boris' spending pledges should we believe, they guy is doing just as he did during the Brexit campaign and telling the voting public what they want to hear, without any sense of reality or likelihood that it will happen.
I quite like his plan for the Leeds - Manchester rail link but, if our country wasn't so London centric, this should/would have happened before any thought's of HS2.
The same "idiots" that believed him firs time round will probably fall for it again.
The people of Sunderland saying that they intend to vote for him is scary.
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| Quote ="wrencat1873"How much of Boris' spending pledges should we believe'"
It would help if the media held his wild claims properly to account.
For example, the breathless reporting of his "20,000 new police officers in 3 years" claim - I have seen very little mention of the fact that that through retirement and other natural wastage, we'll lose around 20k officers in the next 3 years; so a nett zero effect.
And that's quite aside from the fact that having closed so many police stations, there'd be nowhere for them to work even if we did get new ones.
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| Quote ="bren2k"It would help if the media held his wild claims properly to account.
For example, the breathless reporting of his "20,000 new police officers in 3 years" claim - I have seen very little mention of the fact that that through retirement and other natural wastage, we'll lose around 20k officers in the next 3 years; so a nett zero effect.
And that's quite aside from the fact that having closed so many police stations, there'd be nowhere for them to work even if we did get new ones.'"
Yes, it turned our to be an extremely ambiguous "policy".
I think that he said "new" rather than "additional" which keeps numbers pretty much the same as they are now.
Everything is largely irrelevant until Brexit is either done or dead.
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| another tory ,another grub.85% of the population have been held back by these upper class tory twits for years,link them with the royals,another load of upper class scroungers.
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