So, let me get this right!
Now you have had your ass kicked, you're pretending it was a troll?

What a Plank. Keep sucking crack head

Is that all you've got left now thefartisflat?

It unfortunately fell under that predictable banner a few days ago, just before it admitted that some of it's (ahem) evidence are You Tube gormclops videos it had made itself.

The Neanderthal's at least had the good grace to die out, they probably saw the existence of this gomper in the rune's.

Now, I am aware I have been a bit derogatory towards you theearthisflat, but I just watched another Rob Skiba video.

I asked you before, and I ask you again, in the most polite terms, and I apologise for my earlier rudeness.

I am genuinely interested in how old the Earth is in your view?

Look, I asked you a very simple question. Why would the moon look upside down to a person in Australia? You clearly have no idea. Your original thought (and I apologize to real thoughts everywhere for my loose use of the term) was to respond by quoting a random word: "Perspective". However, you can take it as read that we all understand what perspective is and what it does.

What you need to do is explain in basic simple terms how this hitherto unknown-to-man aspect of "perspective" can invert the apparent image of the same object viewed by two different people stood on the alleged same plane.

You can't. The best you can come up with is links to yet more interminable videos of people using software apparently manipulated and altered until it shows what they want it to show!

Is the position that you simply don't know why it does that? Or that you believe there must be a reason but it is too complicated for you to explain the basics of in simple terms? Or what?

As i said before, never mind linking to video after video of manipulated pseudo-scientific nonsense, you need to just tell us the basic plausible explanation - "WHY DOES THE MOON LOOK UPSIDE DOWN TO A PERSON IN AUSTRALIA".

You obviously can't. You obviously have no answer. You have failed spectacularly. You cannot answer a series of very simple questions that people have reasonably asked you. Instead, you feign ourage, or pretend that the simple answers you believe exist are nevertheless so complex we "neanderthals" cannot comprehend. Or whatever it is you are saying, I actually don't care.

What IS clear is you are just now making a fool of yourself. You have no answers. You can only fall back on the delusion of others who have the ability to make pseudo-scientific videos based on very dodgy science or none at all - whilst at the same time REJECTING the evidence of literally millions of genuine factual space videos, from many decades, which have no purpose but to show the world what was to be seen - yet those you denounce as a million "fakes".

That is in the realms of serious delusion. I am now entirely satisfied that you can't answer one simple question: "WHY DOES THE MOON LOOK UPSIDE DOWN TO A PERSON IN AUSTRALIA".

I still can't make up my mind if you are trolling or a genuine nutter, but my object in responding has been to ensure nobody else is taken in by this sort of utter bull. As nobody has been, it seems job done. This is not a fertile ground for your nonsense, so I suggest you fsck off and preach/troll somewhere you may have better luck, as you are wasting your time here.

I'm really not interested in getting involved in some half-assed debate with one of the Internet's legion of oxygen-stealers.

I mean, technically speaking I suppose you could say that the earth is flat observed from higher dimensions where things get all weird.

But you don't need to be strapped into the Apollo command module to see the earth's curvature. It's noticeable looking out the window at 40,000ft. I've seen it many times on long distance flights to and from South Africa.

Vis a vis photographs - it's impossible to arrive at any worthwhile conclusions on the straightness or curvature of this or that object without knowing quite a few details about the lens, diameter, focal length, sensor etc etc. And even then - photographs are easy to fake. I could straighten the earth's curvature in photoshop in sixty seconds. I could invert it completely in the same amount of time.

On the question of NASA - whatever civilian oversight in might have possessed (if any) certainly ended with the Challenger disaster when the entire organisation became an adjunct to the military and Reagan's Star Wars program. Whilst I don't doubt that it is largely staffed by honest and conscientious staff today - all of them know who signs their pay-cheques and can be relied upon to toe the line.

Does this mean I think they are all engaged in a ruse to disguise the fact that we are living on Terry Pratchett's "Discworld" - no.

And on that note I'll leave you all to your squabbling.

I provided an stellarium of all sun and moon phases on your thread. Didn't think you'd understand it was in cartoon form too. Where did you copy and paste your message from this time. ? I'm still awaiting this proof were living on a spinning ball garbage.

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Is one of the phases of the Moon inversion?

Your flat Earth:

- does it spin?
- are all places on one surface or are some on the "bottom"?
- what shape is it when viewed from "above"?

I started watching a vid on YT last night called something like '200 the reasons the Earth is flat'.

I managed to watch until 11/12ish. I can't believe some people out there devote so much time and energy on it. Any scientific reasoning to counter their 'evidence' is rebuked by saying it's a conspiracy. Brilliant.

Oh good for you. you've no need to view this thread then. Jog on troll

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So, why does the Moon look "upside down" when viewed from Australia?

Why are you so angry?

You've come on here to spread the theory the Earth is flat. Convince us. Answer the reasonable questions put to you.

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There worth watching some of those videos ... Hanna-Barbera has got nothing on that lot ...hilarious!


It's worrying that these people exist ... I don't feel safe!

Whilst I joked about the Truman Show earlier in the thread, I just watched one vid that actually reckons we're living inside a huge dome.

20 v 1 numerous deleted posts, I'm fighting you lot with both hands tied behind my back and you still can't prove the globe. Ha ha

I wonder if this gets deleted
The Earth is definitely not a spinning globe. However, as I said earlier about brainwashing... and also precious mentioning old people who have basically accepted it to such a point that it's simply not worth the hassle to look for alternatives.

It's true. They are concerned with living out their lives on the memories they have and the upkeep needed to keep them thinking like that. They have no extra time for being nudged to think that their lives may have been built on a load of lies.
They will argue to the point of full on emotion if they were challenged on their lives or coaxed to offer alternates.

Sit in a pub/club and mention that the Earth is flat, and soon enough you will be known as the irrational nutter that is an end of the worlder. It doesn't matter that you don't hold up a sign or ever mention that the end of the world is nigh. The mere fact that you offered an alternative to the indoctrinated drivel, is enough to have you branded as an odd ball doomsdayer, simply because you offer a thought that people are not willing to compute.
Put it this way. Go and walk into a infant school hall filled with infant's and mother's and speak the truth. Go and tell all the kids that santa claus isn't real and that their mam and dad buy and lay out all their presents. Once you do this, be prepared to make a hasty exit, pursued by angry parents baying for your blood. Why?...because you told a truth that is like an unwritten type of crooks rule of don't grass.

Now to be fair, you can argue that santa is made up and is done for all the right reasons. For joy and the fantasy for kids. That's fair enough, but it's a lie whether it's for that reason or not.Kids are made to believe in fantasy world because it's a conditioning tool for when they grow up to believe in the adult fantasy world and accept it - because, after all they grow up from believing in santa to actually realising he's bull, yet carry it on to their own kids.
Imagine working hard all year to fill the room with presents for your kids and then hand the credit for them to santa claus. The same santa claus that can be in any shopping centre Teach your kids that the man with the white beard and the fat belly and red and white clothes, is your friend no matter where he appears.

It's the same as the tooth fairy. Your hard earned money to pay for a tooth that you actually own already, considering you made the child...but the fictional tooth fairy gets the credit.
Of course, I'm not trying to put a doom on Christmas and such, because I remember my excitement. All I'm saying is, it's a conditioning tool like a million other's and we all appear to fall into a category of certain thoughts. We watch films of santa and the tooth fairy, plus a whole host of other stuff that looks real. Of course, as adults we know different, yet most want to hang onto fantasies that are as clear as day faked, starting back from 1969 rockets and moon - or earlier sputnik satellites. Sputnik is anagram of SPUNK IT, because that's what they're doing with tax money to show you a fictional ball with silly antenna's on it.It's all believed because people need an adult fantasy because their kid like one's have had to be passed down.The next time your kid is looking at a book of santa flying in his sleigh or the global Earth picture...just ask that child which one do you think is real. The answer (more than likely) will be that both are real and yet your thoughts are going to be that santa is fiction and the globe is real.How do you know santa is fiction? How do you know that the globe is real ?

In both cases it's because you were told so, at some point in time. It comes down to common sense and logic and your common sense allows you to discard santa but not the pretty ball that can only have been taken from space. Conditioning at it's best. We are gullible creatures by mass but there's always the black sheep at both ends of the spectrum. The criminal/violent black sheep or the THINKERS. The rest are merely the grazers who are happy with their lot. Question only what's required in the material world but not the masters that deliver it.

So, when you watch a circus act balancing on a large ball....boo them because that is clearly not a skill. We can all do it, can't we? It's just that our ball is a lot bigger.... isn't it? The next time someone pours water on a big ball and it cascades off it, tell them it's a trick ball because our ball that we live on, holds water easily and none falls off. When santa comes from the clouds with every present your child asked for, that you are sure you never bought...or when the tooth fairy turns up showing you all your teeth from being a youngster,etc...then believe in a globe by all means. Even I would convert back.
What's the chances eh.

Keep believing in fairy tales sheeple.

Bonfire night
The trolls can't fight
All out collecting wood to light
With a big plank here and a big plank there
Proving the globe has all gone pear.

Are you part of the England RU coaching team? Certainly delusional enough.