Jesus instituted the church and the church had to spread the faith. Peter and Paul made a massive contribution to this. Also don't forget that all scripture is inspired by God (2 Timothy 3:16).

You do realise that Paul (formerly Saul) encountered the risen Lord shortly after his ascension? And that John the Apostle knew Jesus?

I think you need to revisit Genesis 1-2.

No I don't.

You need to read another book.

Scripture over science eh?

Kirkstaller - not one person has actually agreed with you or your posts and imo are now verging on preaching. While I am enjoying taking part and reading other comments in the debate I am not enjoying your quotes from the bible without you backing them up with a reasonable argument or comment, instead just telling us to read it for ourselves. I do not read the bible so I would very much like to hear your interpretation.

Newsflash, there is no "god". But if there was, he wouldn't make banal points like that.


Wow. Full house.
* "Love your neighbour" - unless it's a same-sex couple, right?
* Do as you would be done unto - unless you want to marry, but want to stop your brother getting married, right? Then do the opposite of how you would like to be done unto. Right?
* "Brothers"? How ironically misogynist., and slightly gay. In truth, you have sisters too, and they've just as much right as brothers to correct you. Are you a closet homosexual?
* By your big books definitions, you are sinning. HTH


You can't libel a viewpoint. Nor would many care a hoot about the weird notion of being "admonished by the proponents of bat loony viewpoints.


This is where your brain is so far in the dark ages that it is clouding your judgment. And your slip is showing, which i would guess matches the slip of most who oppose same-sex marriage. Because your argument was supposed to be that you believe same-sex relations to be fine and dandy, even to the point of civil partnerships, and it's just marriage that is a step too far. The truth is, you and others like you, are just rampant homophobes and while you may come up with that stuff, you don't believe a word of it.


Absolutely. We discriminate against them because they have committed terrible acts, in favour of people who have done nothing wrong, and so are not imprisoned.


You have some good news? Please share, could do with some (real news, please, nothing based on metaphysics).

The most misnamed front campaign for bigots and religious loonies ever. It's clearly a coalition against marriage.

As someone has said: if you disagree with same-sex marriage, the best policy is not to marry someone of the same sex as you. Beyond that, mind your own business.

I do not expect support.

[iEnter ye in at the strait gate: for wide is the gate, and broad is the way, that leadeth to destruction, and many there be which go in thereat. [/i Matthew 7:13



What would you like me to interpret for you?

Yes please cos its a load of b ollox to me.

And you are never going to get it if, when someone raises a valid counterpoint, you just find a line in a book and go "Aaah, see".

If you're such a marriage fan, why aren't you trying to get as many people as possible to try it? Why should one section of society be denied the right to be as miserable as the rest of us?

So why are you bothering when its obvious we are a lost cause?

[iEnter ye in at the strait gate:[/i

That bit means you're only allowed to enter a fanny, and certainly not a bumhole.

[ifor wide is the gate, and broad is the way, that leadeth to destruction,[/i

This means that if your fanny is too wide, you will be destroyed.

[iand many there be which go in thereat.[/i

This bit means that lots of people eat fannies. Which is wrong, cos that's not what it's for.

I love everyone, including same-sex couples. This is why I want to save them.



Do not pervert this commandment; I think it is quite clear what this golden rule means. This does not mean I should condone sin.



We are all brothers in Christ.



Of course I am.

We are all sinners.

I need a saviour as much as anyone else.

I have found my saviour.

I pray that you do too.



I have nothing against gay people. How could I? I would be a hypocrite. I have indulged in my own fair share of sin. I am not concerned with picking specks out of other's eyes. What I am concerned with is spreading the Gospel.



God (the supreme judge of the universe) decides what is wrong and what is right, not you.



If you are genuinely interested (and sadly I suspect that you aren't) PM me.

At last, a sensible explantion, not some namby, pamby fairy story

If you'd have been born in Iran your savior would be the pedophile uncle Mo.

This may come as a surprise to you Kirkstaller but I would suspect the majority of same sex couples don't feel they've nothing to be saved from.

If you want to make it your life's mission to "save them" why don't you go to gay rallies or Gay Pride and preach there? I'd like to see how long you'd last.

I am commanded to. Matthew 28:18-20

There will always be some who will come to Christ.

Yet on p4, you said



In response to a link to <i>Pink News</i> querying your claim to have 500,000 signatures on the petition for bigotry.

May your mind up: either "you did not expect support" or you think your narrow minded nonsense is "majority opinion". But you can't make both claims, it's one or the other

Exactly. Like he does in Deuteronomy 22:28-29, for instance. It is His way, and who are we to question it?

Been there, done that. I petitioned at Leeds Pride last year.

Out of interest, just how many gays did you save? (or should I say cure, because lets face it thats what you really think, imo, that they are diseased in some way and can be cured of their illness)

No.

The Christian viewpoint is a minority opinion, opposition to gay marriage is a majority opinion. Not all people who oppose gay marriage do so on religious grounds, though a great deal of Muslims and Jews have supported our campaign.

How so?

I have no idea. What I do know though is that the Gospel never returns empty.

I don't believe they are diseased.