Well, now that the drawbridge has been pulled up for Afghans, it looks like some will pay with their lives.
Mr Raab, I hope your extra 2 days in the sun were worth it

No doubt he cant do everything himself but, covid apart, the Biggest crisis in his time as Foreign Secretary and he believes HIS holiday is more important than the lives of Afghans.

Absolutely shocking

You have no idea what he was doing and which calls he was making. This isn't a crisis its just a bunch medieval warlords flexing their muscles - in a couple of weeks we will have moved on - is this bigger than Syria, Ukraine, Taiwan, Hong Kong - there are so many we can't be there for everyone.

What do we really expect from these guys - yes if we were being invaded I get it

Come off it. Are you saying a phone call 24 hours before Kabul was overrun would have made one iota of difference?
The Afghan government was already in flight anyway and its doubtful there would have been anyone in situ to take the call anyway.
I'm no fan of Raab but you really need a bigger stick to beat him with. Also if a lie was told to cover for him that was pointless and stupid as there really was no need.

We knew 18 months ago that the Americans were leaving not just the last few days. I guess they did not expect such a rapid take over by the Taliban. I assume the delay was to try to avoid the sight of a large number of Afghans arriving in the U.K. when the Home Secretary made it her goal to keep everyone else out. They gambled that they would have a bit longer to get them out but as per usual they were wrong and are now panicking but sadly some will now be left behind to their fate.
I think anyone with a brain would realise that Biden was never going to go to the Taliban cap in hand requesting an extension. The special relationship is dead why doesn’t Johnson ask the Taliban for an extension because according to the government we are Great Britain again.

Boris caught with his pants round his ankles again

Hang on ZZB, this is his job.
I've had to break holidays before and to deal with far less important issues than this.

The bottom line is that he should have been at his post dealing with this issue, end of - there is no defence and even he now says, with hindsight, that he shouldn't have gone. Nuff said.

Maybe he just couldn't be d to check his diary.

We clearly have very different expectations of senior ministers, even Raab now realises that he shouldn't have gone on holiday.
It's not about one bloody phone call, it's about a (very) senior politician not doing his job and there seems little doubt that some people will lose their lives as a result - remember, had Boris croaked from covid, Raab would have been in temporary charge - and this is how seriously he takes his responsibilities.
Even the most true blue of true blue Tories cant argue here.

MPs are entitled to holidays like the rest of us. Let them have a break, recharge their batteries and come back to build back better.

Compared to people who have died from Covid due to ministerial errors this is a drop in the ocean - we need to get things into perspective here.

So we now base success on the number of deaths. We have reached a new low even for this government.
This was also the same Foreign Secretary who allowed Anne Sakoolas to return home despite being warned she did not have the immunity stated. We all know that the Americans never allow one of their citizens stand trial in any third party country and so did he.

Boris Johnson’s Raable fast putting the Muppets out of busi

ness

Hilarious. Absolutely bloody hilarious

Of course they should have holidays.

However, if the is raining down, you would expect that Ministers would be back behind their desk PDQ.
In fact, knowing that their is a serious situation about to happen (the deadline in Afghanistan was already in place), perhaps they should have done what anyone else would be expected to do and postpone their break.

Raab has one of the most important posts in government, he's not the tea boy

Woooosh

As a matter of interest ,are the Arab & Muslim nations evacuating people . Everything seems to be centred on UK/US/EU or so the impression is given.

I dont suppose that their need is quite as great, as they weren't seen as the enemy.
Mind you, there are plenty of Afghans trying to get over the border into Iran and Pakistan etc.

I dont think the English are too welcome in Iran though

Oh, but they'll try.

Can't argue with any of it really, plus if he lied about the phone call he should go

He certainly lied about the sea being closed because it wasn’t. What he apparently meant was that a red flag was in operation but this may not have been on the beach he was not sat on.

Apparently, he wasn't on the beech but back in his room dealing with important business


If he was so busy with business, perhaps he should have flown back.
It's a repeat of Dominic Cummings, making his story fit events, instead of actually telling the truth.
Mind you, honesty and integrity are key values completely missing from this government and the clown PM.

I now see that we didn’t want to waste the Talaban’s time finding those that worked for us by leaving their details in the Embassy. This was apparently caused by the speed of evacuation because someone failed to make a call which would have allowed them a little more time.

I love the quote in one of the papers saying that Johnson is "allergic to the truth" and his ministers seem to follow that lead.
As the pressure has mounted, Raab has gone from, not in the sea, to not on the beech to, in his room working.

Lucky for you and the Pimpernel that brexit , covid and Afghanistan came along really otherwise your little lives would have been so dull, plus with Pimps he also had Chester's problems to drool over, happy days eh, I'll bet Raab can't wait for Boris to cock up again if only to take the pressure put on him by political experts like you and scarlet

No the problem is that they all came along when we had this government and PM in charge. I guess you are ready to accept a large number of people losing their lives unnecessarily because of his ineptitude and the lies which resulted in Brexit, how’s that going by the way. We then have him saying people should not be looking for handouts when he tried to get money from donors to cover his wife’s expensive decorations, only paying it back when he was found out.
With regards Chester you should be glad he has gone because if not do you actually believe we would have won the two games we have and without them we could not start to plan for another season in super league.
I cannot believe that you are so gullible not to realise what Johnson is and what Chester was doing to the club but I guess you need to keep the faith and carry on burying your head in the sand.

Its just stuff to talk about and they are the gift that keeps on giving :
As for dull life, it was alright last night in Hull (apart from the A63 being closed)

He probably just needed to post his anti-Tory post for that day.